Orrin Woodward (source: his website)
… or bottom, depending on the way you look at it in this Forbes article on the Supreme TEAM Leader himself. I found this link at the end of the comment stream on this QBlog post. It’s also being discussed on ibofightback’s Amway Talk forum.
What do you see when you read the article? If you are a critic, you might see a well-written article that accurately summarizes the Woodward’s rise in Amway/Quixtar, his downfall at the hands of the corporation, and ultimately his lateral move (along with his real business, the tools) over to Mona Vie. If you are a supporter of the business, but an opponent of TEAM, you might point out inaccuracies as it relates to Amway/Quixtar but agree on the lying, cowardly actions of Woodward. Finally, if you are a TEAM supporter and Mova Vie distributor, you may think this article is a complete hack job on the the wonderful leader that is YOUR Orrin Woodward.
Team hauled in $42 million last year and boasts 60,000 mostly middle-class members.
Woodward stated on his own site that he made 4-5 times more income from the tools business than from Amway bonuses. Granted, some of the money above went to other Diamonds and Emeralds on TEAM, but whoa nelly, that’s still a lot of tools money!
His Amway divorce left Woodward with motivational tools but no product to motivate people to sell. Members defected. Sales plummeted. Woodward tried selling his tools to customers like Kettering University, a Michigan pizza franchise and a Phoenix car dealership.
It would have been nice for the article to explain in more detail how effective (or ineffective) he was at selling his tools to outside businesses and organizations.
Woodward is a polarizing character in this debate. He’s currently the poster-boy for a fallen Diamond in the Amway/Quixtar universe, a lying, cowardly, tool-scam kingpin for critics, and a wonderful human being for his TEAM followers. It’s even better that he posts frequently on his own blog, which allows critics and supporters alike to further confirm their suspicions and opinions about him.
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Woodward stated on his own site that he made 4-5 times more income from the tools business than from Amway bonuses. Granted, some of the money above went to other Diamonds and Emeralds on TEAM, but whoa nelly, that’s still a lot of tools money! —- Correction, Orrin stated the typical tool scam profit was 4-5 times the Quixtar profit for Emeralds and above, not just himself. If he was making this much and they weren’t, tool prices would be MUCH lower. However, his downline would soon create their own tool scams and break off, “robbing” Orrin of that portion of his scam profits.
I think he has been largely ineffective at selling to others. He can’t promise THEM the tool scam lifestyle he has developed from his downline for following him.
Orrin has done a terrific job of reminding all of us the tool scam is “alive and well.”
He took it to David Fightback on his blog. LOL
I thought ibofb came out quite well on his blog. There is no way an LCK can look good discussing much of anything.
I don’t know who got Orrin to admit to the 4-5X comment, but I encouraged ibofb to ask him.
Eventually, someone else did.
Tool Kingpin-foolery raises its ugly head again. Good time for a good old fashioned tool scam scandal huh?
The tool scam scandal has been in place for several decades, long before Orrin came around.
Orrin Featured in a Forbes Magazine article.
Notice the word “pyramid” in the article:
http://www.forbes.com/entrepreneurs/forbes/2008/0811/050.html
joecool,
That link was already in the original post. I’ve often said you rarely add anything new, but this is ridiculous.
So I goofed. At least I can admit it.
I admit when I’m wrong too, it just doesn’t happen very often.
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