Comments on: IBOAI Stakes Greg Duncan in All In Challenge http://amthrax.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/iboai-stakes-greg-duncan-in-all-in-challenge/ Another Point of View on the Amway/MonaVie Opportunity Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:39:34 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: What Is XS Gold? « Amthrax http://amthrax.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/iboai-stakes-greg-duncan-in-all-in-challenge/#comment-466 What Is XS Gold? « Amthrax Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:41:45 +0000 http://amthrax.wordpress.com/?p=454#comment-466 [...] of a new drink coming out from XS, XS Gold. As readers may already know, XS is run in part by WWDB Triple Diamond Greg Duncan, whom I’ve written about several times in the past, and they provide the exclusive energy [...] [...] of a new drink coming out from XS, XS Gold. As readers may already know, XS is run in part by WWDB Triple Diamond Greg Duncan, whom I’ve written about several times in the past, and they provide the exclusive energy [...]

]]> By: Amthrax http://amthrax.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/iboai-stakes-greg-duncan-in-all-in-challenge/#comment-368 Amthrax Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:11:30 +0000 http://amthrax.wordpress.com/?p=454#comment-368 perceptive - another unstated goal of the site to provide a forum in which critics and supporters can talk reasonably about the business and even find some common ground! perceptive – another unstated goal of the site to provide a forum in which critics and supporters can talk reasonably about the business and even find some common ground!

]]> By: Amthrax http://amthrax.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/iboai-stakes-greg-duncan-in-all-in-challenge/#comment-364 Amthrax Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:54:19 +0000 http://amthrax.wordpress.com/?p=454#comment-364 Thank you for the clarification. I have updated the text in the article to state that the properties are in pre-foreclosure as opposed to foreclosure. Thank you for the clarification. I have updated the text in the article to state that the properties are in pre-foreclosure as opposed to foreclosure.

]]> By: ibofightback http://amthrax.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/iboai-stakes-greg-duncan-in-all-in-challenge/#comment-359 ibofightback Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:12:11 +0000 http://amthrax.wordpress.com/?p=454#comment-359 Amthrax - I suspect they are. Re the "foreclosures", Larsen has an update with an explanation from a "real estate expert" that they're not foreclosures, it's a "preforeclosure" (which is actually clearly stated at the top of the docs) and apparently it's just a first step "shot across the bow" type of thing that can occur if there's a dispute. His analysis was that the info provided suggested it was highly unlikely to go to foreclosure. Amthrax – I suspect they are.

Re the “foreclosures”, Larsen has an update with an explanation from a “real estate expert” that they’re not foreclosures, it’s a “preforeclosure” (which is actually clearly stated at the top of the docs) and apparently it’s just a first step “shot across the bow” type of thing that can occur if there’s a dispute. His analysis was that the info provided suggested it was highly unlikely to go to foreclosure.

]]> By: perceptive - QUIXTAR http://amthrax.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/iboai-stakes-greg-duncan-in-all-in-challenge/#comment-358 perceptive - QUIXTAR Mon, 25 Aug 2008 05:15:48 +0000 http://amthrax.wordpress.com/?p=454#comment-358 I actually agree completely with IBOFB - is this a first? Hell must have frozen over ;-).... Greg Duncan is in compliance with letter AND spirit of the rule. The intent of the rule is to prevent IBOs from being a salesman for ANOTHER MLM company, WHILE they are STILL a Quixtar IBO. Having said that - I agree with the general tenor of your post. Greg Duncan is a complete HYPOCRITE - he is one hell of a shyster. You are right, his PRIMARY interest is in selling stuff like XS, CDs, Tapes, Kate etc. rather than the Amway Business. I actually agree completely with IBOFB – is this a first? Hell must have frozen over ;-) ….

Greg Duncan is in compliance with letter AND spirit of the rule.

The intent of the rule is to prevent IBOs from being a salesman for ANOTHER MLM company, WHILE they are STILL a Quixtar IBO.

Having said that – I agree with the general tenor of your post. Greg Duncan is a complete HYPOCRITE – he is one hell of a shyster. You are right, his PRIMARY interest is in selling stuff like XS, CDs, Tapes, Kate etc. rather than the Amway Business.

]]> By: Amthrax http://amthrax.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/iboai-stakes-greg-duncan-in-all-in-challenge/#comment-348 Amthrax Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:31:43 +0000 http://amthrax.wordpress.com/?p=454#comment-348 Unless XS and All In Energy are owned by the same parent company, ala how Coca-Cola owns Coke, Sprite, etc. Unless XS and All In Energy are owned by the same parent company, ala how Coca-Cola owns Coke, Sprite, etc.

]]> By: Amthrax http://amthrax.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/iboai-stakes-greg-duncan-in-all-in-challenge/#comment-347 Amthrax Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:29:13 +0000 http://amthrax.wordpress.com/?p=454#comment-347 I'm certain there's plenty of great quotes to mine from listening to old tapes and CDs. That said, I'm glad that I threw all of my away when I left the business. I’m certain there’s plenty of great quotes to mine from listening to old tapes and CDs. That said, I’m glad that I threw all of my away when I left the business.

]]> By: Joecool http://amthrax.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/iboai-stakes-greg-duncan-in-all-in-challenge/#comment-346 Joecool Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:21:53 +0000 http://amthrax.wordpress.com/?p=454#comment-346 "One of my greatest pet peeves is that when they think have a better deal so they go to some real-estate seminar and pay $3,000 bucks to just hear about it. And my attitude is if the dang real-estate seminar is so good and it works why don't they charge enough at the door to cover the cost of the function and then they can make a percentage off the real-estate profits. I'll tell you why. Because, the average person who attends a real-estate seminar loses $5,000 bucks, $3,000 just from the initiation fee just to get in the stupid thing." Double Diamond-Greg Duncan-tape: "EDC Attitude" RP419 “One of my greatest pet peeves is that when they think have a better deal so they go to some real-estate seminar and pay $3,000 bucks to just hear about it. And my attitude is if the dang real-estate seminar is so good and it works why don’t they charge enough at the door to cover the cost of the function and then they can make a percentage off the real-estate profits. I’ll tell you why. Because, the average person who attends a real-estate seminar loses $5,000 bucks, $3,000 just from the initiation fee just to get in the stupid thing.” Double Diamond-Greg Duncan-tape: “EDC Attitude” RP419

]]> By: Joecool http://amthrax.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/iboai-stakes-greg-duncan-in-all-in-challenge/#comment-344 Joecool Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:05:07 +0000 http://amthrax.wordpress.com/?p=454#comment-344 One might also wonder why someone would invest in an energy drink company when they are already a part owner of the "best" energy drink company already. One might also wonder why someone would invest in an energy drink company when they are already a part owner of the
“best” energy drink company already.

]]> By: Joecool http://amthrax.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/iboai-stakes-greg-duncan-in-all-in-challenge/#comment-343 Joecool Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:54:16 +0000 http://amthrax.wordpress.com/?p=454#comment-343 Again, why is the IBOAI issuing this clarification instead of Quixtar? I'm pretty sure Mr. Duncan has some influence with the IBOAI. Again, why is the IBOAI issuing this clarification instead of Quixtar? I’m pretty sure Mr. Duncan has some influence with the IBOAI.

]]> By: ibofightback http://amthrax.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/iboai-stakes-greg-duncan-in-all-in-challenge/#comment-333 ibofightback Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:54:09 +0000 http://amthrax.wordpress.com/?p=454#comment-333 To my reading "the spirit" of the rule is no competing within the direct selling industry. I don't see a problem with it. To my reading “the spirit” of the rule is no competing within the direct selling industry. I don’t see a problem with it.

]]> By: Joecool http://amthrax.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/iboai-stakes-greg-duncan-in-all-in-challenge/#comment-331 Joecool Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:54:29 +0000 http://amthrax.wordpress.com/?p=454#comment-331 Amthrax - totally agree. When I read the article, I found it comical when they mentioned semantics and the spirit of the rule because clearly, selling another energy drink is in direct competition with an approved quixtar product. Amthrax – totally agree. When I read the article, I found it comical when they mentioned semantics and the spirit of the rule because clearly, selling another energy drink is in direct competition with an approved quixtar product.

]]> By: Amthrax http://amthrax.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/iboai-stakes-greg-duncan-in-all-in-challenge/#comment-330 Amthrax Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:33:40 +0000 http://amthrax.wordpress.com/?p=454#comment-330 ibofightback - I'm not arguing that he's legally violating the Quixtar Non-Compete clause. If they say he's legally in the clear, fine with me. Spirit of the rule... now there I think I have some valid arguments. At the end of the day, Duncan should be allowed to sell his products to other people. But don't hide behind all this two separate markets PR nonsense. ibofightback – I’m not arguing that he’s legally violating the Quixtar Non-Compete clause. If they say he’s legally in the clear, fine with me.

Spirit of the rule… now there I think I have some valid arguments.

At the end of the day, Duncan should be allowed to sell his products to other people. But don’t hide behind all this two separate markets PR nonsense.

]]> By: ibofightback http://amthrax.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/iboai-stakes-greg-duncan-in-all-in-challenge/#comment-328 ibofightback Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:21:42 +0000 http://amthrax.wordpress.com/?p=454#comment-328 Amthrax, I'm not arguing that the XS and All in Energy are not competing with each other as the word is normally used - clearly they are - but the Quixtar rules quite specifically define what "compete" means <i>for the purpose of those rules</i>. The definition is very clear, no interpretation needed. Nevertheless, the IBOAI blog post is poorly written. Amthrax, I’m not arguing that the XS and All in Energy are not competing with each other as the word is normally used – clearly they are – but the Quixtar rules quite specifically define what “compete” means for the purpose of those rules. The definition is very clear, no interpretation needed. Nevertheless, the IBOAI blog post is poorly written.

]]> By: More on Greg Duncan and All In Energy « Amthrax http://amthrax.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/iboai-stakes-greg-duncan-in-all-in-challenge/#comment-327 More on Greg Duncan and All In Energy « Amthrax Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:19:44 +0000 http://amthrax.wordpress.com/?p=454#comment-327 [...] a second. The purpose of these other ventures, such as selling All In Energy to poker players, is to reduce the cost of XS and to empower opportunities for IBOs?!? Duncan’s commitment and [...] [...] a second. The purpose of these other ventures, such as selling All In Energy to poker players, is to reduce the cost of XS and to empower opportunities for IBOs?!? Duncan’s commitment and [...]

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