Here He Goes Again: Robert Dean, Former Tahitian Noni, MonaVie, Evolv, Visalus and LIMU Distributor Joins Momentis
January 27, 2012
This is not a reprint. Robert Dean, Former Tahitian Noni, MonaVie, Evolv, Visalus and LIMU Distributor Joins Momentis MLM energy company.
LIMU has “suspended” Dean in the meantime. Over on Ty Tribble’s MLM Blog, it’s been reported that Robert Dean is still paying off Tahitian Noni. That was six MLM companies ago!
Examples like this are precisely why prospects should know the backgrounds of these MLM “leaders.” The more information they have, the better they’ll be able to say, “NO WAY!” when confronted with these dubious business opportunities.
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Well, most people learn the hard way, but this dude wouldn’t even know rock bottom when it hits him. :-p
I agree, research is essential, you need to know the good and the bad. Wish I hadn’t listened to my upline and went ahead and did research anyway (as she told me NOT to research!).
6?! Holy crap! And I bet this is going to be “the best (pretend) business opportunity to come down the tubes, nothing in the world can touch this!”
I bet that’s what he said the last 5 times, the tragedy is that some poor soul fell for the lies. That of course is always an expensive move, like Velizabeth said.
At some point decent people have to let reality take root and see these MLMer shysters for what they are – self-whoring, charlatans that are willing to say and do anything to line up their pockets at the expense of the deceived souls. Nothing else matters to them other than $ into their pockets.
I agree everybody needs to know the backgrounds of the mlm shysters that includes prospects, the feds, judges, politicos, parents and all. Perhaps just like the Belgians did with Herbal Life, we too can all start calling MLM cults what they really are commercial chain recruitment cults instead of infuriating euphemisms such as “free enterprise.” What a sick joke on decent people and capitalism!
Wow! I was just approached by someone last week about Momentis. Thanks for posting this! I’m gonna tell them “NO WAY!” if they call again!
If a man want to leave, then let him leave. If you knew there was a better job for you out there, would you stay at a job you where you could reach your ful potential? Of course you wouldnt. The human spirit is all about the new and for growth. TEN OF THOUSANDS of people make company changes if not HUNDREDS of thousands per month!!. It only gets noticed when you reach a level of leadership. How many times have you changed careers? Did you know the average person CHANGES careers 7 times!!! 7!!!! Stop reading about others and make yourself the person to be read about.
@netpro – it’s relevant because Dean is supposedly a leader. He’s supposed to lead his people to a business opportunity where they can all make money. By jumping from company to company, it looks like the only thing he’s interested is himself. He goes off saying that company x is the best, with the best compensation plan and the best momentum. Then, he jumps ship to company y after 6 months? And does it again and again and again and again? Sorry, in my opinion, he doesn’t get a free pass.
Netpro: “Did you know the average person CHANGES careers 7 times!!! 7!!!!”
Do you know how many exclamation points you used??? Seven!!!!!!! Do you know how valid your comment was??? Not at all!!!!!!! Please don’t come here spouting nonsense statistics. According to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics (the definitive source on such matters):
“Until a consensus emerges among economists, sociologists, career-guidance professionals, and other labor market observers about the appropriate criteria that should be used for defining careers and career changes, BLS and other statistical organizations will not be able to produce estimates on the number of times people change careers in their lives.”
http://www.bls.gov/nls/nlsfaqs.htm#anch43
@netpro
Ha Ha Ha at you, really? For real!
Listen you sound so much like many other ambots who come here and throw a pitiful attempt at a discourse viz, uninformed, research-lazy and intellectually inept. Where do your recruiters find your lot?
Nevertheless, your non-argument and/or horrible defense of these “leaders” is non existent, a laughable joke and quite frankly displays a deficient understanding of the hidden, behind the scenes wheeling and dealing deals showered on these “leaders” to jump MLM companies or thereafter. Further, if that is all you have to propagate here it’s sadly an accurate portrayal of the common castrated intellect of MLMbots, and I am being kindly truthful.
Perhaps you do have a shread of egghead stamina, then you can read up on the link below and others, lest these hidden deals remain unbeknownst to you, that your “leaders” unashamedly take, with you in their back pockets as nothing but a currency commodity to jump-an-MLM-company. More so they don’t share with you, the downlines, fluff, ambots, etc. in these deals thus, the need for this topic. These MLM “leaders” just use their flock of followers like you, to get deals for themselves (you know like a $3 million loan they don’t have to repay if….they do this or that.) If the “leaders” would not have reached “a level of leadership” like you haven’t reached yet, or say they have not you and/or a group to be milked I mean to purchase MLM crap, no mlm company owner would be interested to talk to them, just like none is not interested to talk to you netpro.
Research for yourself then next time you can offer up a substantive argument on behalf of your “leaders” really charlatans.
http://amthrax.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/binary-discussion-on-facebook/
@Amthrx: I agree with you so much. You hit it right on the head! He is SUPPOSEDLY a leader. I cant agree more. The reason why there’s any relevance. What I said is if he wants to leave, then leave, good-bye, go.
@ExAmbot: Hello. You too have mad some fine points that I just have to agree with as well. There lies some kind truth. I understand you very much. I urge you for more of your great insight. Just know he never led me in any endeavor, nor did I follow. This is no attempt for me to create a discourse. Im glad to know that you know some “leaders” make deals. Well, I dont call them leaders…I now call them businessboys! ha, ha! These “businessboys,” like businessmen, make deals. True leaders, in my opinion, have standards, values, morals, ethics, they stand for something great. WE should confront the COMPANIES themselves for offering deals. Not people for taking them.
If their opportunity was good enough, if their product was good enough, if there management team was good enough, if the comp plan paid enough…the leaders will show up and more will develop. We know companies offer deals, like you mentioned, to provoke growth and attention! Remember, people go where people go.
You guys have said some fine things. Did I clarify myself better?
I am, unfortunately, one of the “MLMbots” who was recruited by someone on Robert Dean’s LIMU team. The product is phenomenal and I have personally had great results using it. We, my husband and I, have only been part of the organization for three months and we have been relatively successful at gaining customers as well as promoters. I have no intention of leaving LIMU because I truly believe in the product. I do, however, believe Mr. Dean to be less than honest in his dealings. His decision to leave LIMU has adversely affected so many people in his downline. LIMU disconnected the back office for most in the TOPGUN organization; even those of us who had no idea of Dean’s plan to jump ship. Mr. Dean will continue to behave this was for as long as MLM companies continue to pay him large sums of money. I did research on both LIMU and Mr. Dean prior to joining and I knew of his “company-jumper” status, but my mind was put at ease because he had just joined LIMU in March of last year, he signed a 5-year contract with LIMU, and LIMU paid off his judgement to Noni ($100K). I figured he learned his lesson and would stay put for a while. I suppose Gary Raser, the CEO of LIMU thought the same thing since he gave him this opportunity. I cannot tell you how terrible it feels to have your business shut down due to guilt by association. My husband and I have communicated every step of the way to those in our downline and we are remaining hopeful that the outcome, for us, will be positive in that the powers that be within LIMU will investigate and realize that, except for Robert Dean’s board of directors, most of us associated with his team made the association through happenstance; his team was launched in our area of the country and therefore we signed up under what was LIMU TOPGUN. I have come across several people over the past few months who earn a wonderful living through network marketing. It is unfortunate that people like Robert Dean give these opportunities such a black eye.
@Netpro
“Did you know the average person CHANGES careers 7 times!!! 7!!!!”
Where precisely did you get this numbers? I’m just curios.
P/S
Netpro I’m in a rush but certainly something about your comments beckons my curiosity, for as soon as I am back. NewNetter’s as well.
http://mlmhelpdesk.com/breaking-mlm-news-update-robert-dean-comes-clean-about-topgun-the-limu-move-and-how-much-money-he-was-paid-to-join-momentis-energy/
Here is the latest on Robert Dean. He gets it…….
@Mike Collins – Can you summarize what Dean said in the audio interview?
First he took Troy to task for assassinating his character not once but twice now without calling him first to get his side of the story. I have also taken Troy to task for his hypocrisy in this regard and feel that Robert is absolutely justified in doing so.
He admits to receiving a deal from Monavie. He moved to Monavie because he thought it was a good move for his team. He admits that he didn’t understand the compensation structure. And figured out MV was a bad deal when he realized he was the only one on his team making any money. He went to Dallin about this and Dallin said that he could do nothing about it because this was Briggs deal. And Brigg says that little guys are little guys because they are little guys. In other words if they were big guys they would deserve to make money but since they’re little guys they don’t deserve to make money.
He said it is almost impossible for the little guys to make money in MV because it is a top-heavy comp plan with tons of breakage which if any of you have read my analysis of the income disclosure statement you know that this is my exact feeling about MV.
So he left. He also says that any time he is left one company to go to another he is fulfilled his contract and any bridge money that he received from the company owners he spent on his team.
He said you don’t know how much money you’re going to make any compensation plan until you build it. This is where I disagree with him he just doesn’t know how to analyze it yet. But he is figuring it out. I believe that his paradigm is shifting.
He also stated that the companies that he left has some serious integrity issues in the leadership. He had not left limu at the time of Troy’s report. When the story broke the owner of limu overreacted and froze his team’s accounts. It was at this point that he signed up in his new company. He signed up at the bottom of the compensation plan underneath an average person. The truth is that he has dirt on all of the leadership and all of these companies as I understood it.
My take is that Robert is figuring out the industry and the compensation plans and he truly wants his team to make money. We may never know all of the ugly details about Robert Dean and top gun but it is obvious to me that his people love him and will follow him anywhere. You don’t get that kind of loyalty by ripping people off.
I dictated the above on my phone so there may be some grammatical errors.
The first sentence should read: he took Troy to task.
I apologize if there are any other errors in my grammar.
[Editor's note: I updated Mike's comments with some corrections.]
We’ll see about Dean. Recent track record indicates otherwise.
What exactly does it indicate
Six MLM companies in the span of 3-4 years indicates an MLM hopper. For the sake of his team, he could have understood the compensation plan BEFORE joining these companies and encouraging his flock to join with him.