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MonaVie Waives Renewal and Enrollment Fees… Keeps Everything Else the Same

April 6, 2009

I read this recently on the MonaVie On the Move website:

MonaVie Waives Annual Renewal Fee for 2009

The MonaVie Stimulus Package is continually proving that no other company cares for its distributors quite like MonaVie. And now, we are excited to announce yet another element to the package.

Until further notice, MonaVie is waiving the annual US$20 renewal fee!

During these increasingly difficult economic times, MonaVie is committed to doing whatever we can to help you share the MonaVie opportunity with as many people as possible. We look forward to your continued success as we work together to grow MonaVie.

Furthermore, they are waiving the $39 enrollment fees for all newly signed distributors for 2009.

Let me get this straight; MonaVie is waiving a $20 annual fee but still requiring its distributors to have 100PV in volume (i.e. a case a month for $120) in order to receive a bonus? Sure it’s $20 (or $39 to sign up), but that doesn’t really sound like much of a deal to me if you still have to buy $120 worth of product each month.

But wait, there’s more in MonaVie Stimulus Plan:

MonaVie Coming to You. Rather than asking you to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on travel, we’re coming to you in 2009 with increased City and Regional Meetings. We’d rather you spend that travel money on your tasting parties!

Okay, so instead of giving money to your online travel agent and favorite airline, you give more money to MonaVie for bottles of juice for your tasting parties? Don’t forget the $25 entrance fee to attend your now-local Regional Seminar! Well, there goes that $20 you saved by having the annual distributor fee waived!

Black Diamond and above Qualification. We are rolling back the requirements to reach Black, Royal, Presidential, Imperial, and Crowne Black Diamond to meeting the individual rank requirements for four consecutive weeks, rather than six and eight weeks. It’s now more attainable!

So, the people at the very top — Woodward, Hart, and company — can reach higher levels more easily? Gee, so is that like “the rich get richer?”

Here’s another quote from Dallin Larsen about the stimulus plan:

This world is starving for bold, principle-based leadership, and we’re going to continue answering the call! Here’s a secret to success: Find out what the masses are doing and do just the opposite. It’s time for people to stand up and say to a world that is heading south that we’re heading north, and to jump on this train because there’s more room. It’s time for MonaVie to step up and step out. It’s time for us to do, be, give, and become MORE!

I think Orrin Woodward is secretly Dallin’s scriptwriter. He sures sound a lot like him!

How about reducing the price of your product as part of the MonaVie Stimulus Plan? What you say? You can’t do that? Oh, I forgot, that’s because your Mid-Year 2009 Income Disclosure Statement would show a whopper of a decline in the business.

If you want more analysis on the MonaVie “opportunity”, visit Lazy Man’s blog.

P.S. I hear there’s a new magic berry drink coming out called Avia. The Maqui berry has a higher ORAC value than your precious Acai!

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21 Comments leave one →
  1. mike permalink
    April 9, 2009 1:58 pm

    Or..

    “In the past we charged a fee for having your business..and since you had extra cash to spend we..charge it..duh!.

    But since extra money is not as easy to part with, we will not charge you, we did not really need the money anyway..well we did, someone has to spend it..

    As far as the meetings, we will still have them, but you will not have to travel so far, we could have done that before, we are taken advantage of the situation…it is what we do.

  2. BARRY HALL permalink
    April 13, 2009 3:13 pm

    SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THESE CRITICS OF MONAVIE ARE JUST HAVING A TOUGH TIME DEALING WITH THE SUCCESS OF MONAVIE. SOLUTION: GET ALIFE AND MOVE ON, OR JOIN THE BUSINESS!!! IT SEEMS TO ME BEING POSITIVE AND BEING HEALTHY AND PASSING THAT ON TO OTHERS IS A LOT MORE CONSTRUCTIVE THAN STANDING ON THE SIDE LINES AS A CRITIC.

  3. Joecool permalink
    April 13, 2009 5:55 pm

    What bonafide health benefits does one get from drinkng Mona Vie?

    The only thing I can think of is weight loss in your bank account.

  4. mike permalink
    April 14, 2009 5:12 am

    Barry, I totally agree that one needs to be postive and passing that to others.

    No one is complaining about the sucess of someone selling high priced juice. But I wonder if you would be using the stuff if you were not “making” money from selling it.

    My positive does not come from man, and my health is maintained by eating and living.

    I just have problems with folks that are selling a lie.

    Barry if you saw someone being cheating out of their money, would you sit by and say nothing..or do what you could to help them?

  5. April 14, 2009 7:04 pm

    Hi Mike,

    If you see someone being told lies and biases about your business in order to damage your profits, would you sit by and say nothing… or do what you could to confront them?

    Respecfully, this is what i see YOU doing.

    If you are NOT telling lies and biases, then please – at least ask good questions like our joecool does, or back up your allegations of “cheating” with some facts, rather than assumptions.

  6. mike permalink
    April 15, 2009 3:00 am

    Rykel, please state what lies I have stated and how has that damaged your profits.

    Do you purchase “tools” because your upline is telling you to buy them?

    Let me restate my question,

    “No one is complaining about the sucess of someone selling high priced juice. But I wonder if you would be using the stuff if you were not “making” money from selling it?”

    or more simple, are you selling the product because it works for you, or are you using the product because you can sell it?

  7. April 15, 2009 5:12 am

    Mike,

    Thank you for taking the time to respond.

    As long as you are not here with a hidden agenda to damage the profits of networkers, I am most happy to reply.

    I shall CAPITALISE the parts of your post where you allege wrongdoing without substantiation.

    You said,

    “… selling HIGH PRICED JUICE”
    “… with folks that are selling a LIE”.
    “… saw someone BEING CHEATING [sic, should be CHEATED]”

    Mike:

    1. Which other 100% juice blend of NINETEEN fruits sells for lesser than MonaVie? How many of them are there out there?

    2. What “lies” were you referring to? Please provide evidence with quotations.

    3. Kindly explain HOW people are “being cheated out of their money”.

    I have to end here, because I am allocated 10 minutes only at this East Coast Park McDonald’s public internet terminal.

    God Bless,

    Rykel

  8. Joecool permalink
    April 15, 2009 12:52 pm

    “1. Which other 100% juice blend of NINETEEN fruits sells for lesser than MonaVie? How many of them are there out there?”

    Fruit A Vie at Sam’s club sells for $16.89 (where I live) and that is much much cheaper than MV and very similar on content.

  9. mike permalink
    April 15, 2009 1:48 pm

    The lies that are told are that one needs to go to functions,purchase tapes and books to build a business.

    To my understanding the juice you sell goes for 40.00 a bottle..that is a high price..seriously..is that for a gallon?

    Rykel, again let me ask..

    Are you using the product because you are getting a direct benefit from the product, or are you using it to because you are selling it?

    Again as far as the number of fruits does that even deem it better than anything..what if a product has 20 fruits..and would it be better?

  10. April 15, 2009 6:45 pm

    Hi all,

    Thanks for the notes. I enjoy responding to joecool’s post because he is more balanced, fair and just than some other posters. Thankfully, Mike is also more courteous in his last post, and I deeply appreciate that, Mike.

    I visited a huge shopping market in Manhattan Beach during our trip to St Louis, and I saw quite a few number of acai drinks (not juice – just like there is a difference between soya bean drink and soya bean juice) along with the acai juices, and we were really impressed that acai is so Mainstream in USA.

    Then, there was at least one product where it sold for US49 for just acai juice.

    As for Fruit A Vie, I believe first of all, there is no label available anywhere on any website (I tried looking two months back!), but then I vaguely recall someone posting the ingredients manually by looking at the bottle. It will be great if we could have a look at the contents of that product here for comparison with MonaVie. (although we will not have any concrete way to prove that the poster is telling the truth. So Fruit A Vie distributors, come on, put up a nice website and come show us what you have in that bottle.)

    Nevertheless, I would be keen to know what price would a blend of NINETEEN fruits (exact formula as MonaVie) by a competitor sell for, AND pay out 50% of business volume to distributors.

    In Asia, there is NONE.

    Acai IS premium. NOT A SINGLE STORE in my country even sells the acai fruit nor knows about it. Not even the science students who study fruits.

    As for drinking it, yes, it is true that some drink it because they want the product** and some, because they are distributors of the brand.

    We can chat about the need for functions, CDs (no more tapes) and books in a proper, legitimate community building, leadership-driven business after we have come to a consensus about the acai fruit.

    ** My friends are retailing at the rate of almost 12 cases per WEEK to NON-distributors! Now, would anyone who thinks that “no one”‘s buying the juice without the business attached, like to deny that fact?

    Indeed, the headache here is that TONS of people just want the juice without the business. Can any critic help us convince these customers that they should be distributors too? hehe, just kidding! 🙂

    To Mike: Thanks for not allowing the thread to wander off – my question was, where else can you find exactly NINETEEN fruits selling for WAAAAY LESS than MonaVie? It is NOT about 19 fruits being “better” or worse, I am just talking about the price to pay for a blend of 19 fruits. I CANNOT find anything as CHEAP as MonaVie here in Asia, neither in MLMs nor at juice stations.

  11. April 15, 2009 11:51 pm

    Rykel – Is the price of a case the same in Singapore as the price in the US? $40/bottle * 4 bottles/case = $160? What is the demographic that purchases MonaVie where you live? Are they families and individuals with a high degree of disposable income?

  12. mike permalink
    April 16, 2009 2:58 am

    Rykl, In the USA, we have jello with Acai as part of the ingredients..

    If you get a benefit from the product and are willing to pay the cost, that is fine, no one is saying that is a bad thing…if you can not get the same product for a lesser price due to supply..

    It is that there are those in you business that are making money selling you something other than juice, which is books, CD’s and meetings.

    I realize there is some training involved,but the extent which it is conducted, borders on criminal.

  13. April 19, 2009 2:22 pm

    Fruit A Vie has apparently been available at Sams Club. It appears to be much better for you than Coca Cola, but please consider the following:

    1. Monavie has Dr. Schauss, who won the Linus Pauling award in 2006 for his research on the Acai berry. He made Monavie build a $1 mil+ facility in Brazil to flash freeze dry the Acai, giving it an ORAC of 1027. The much cheaper version (the apparent Wal Mart Sams Club way) is heat-chemical-spray dried, and has an ORAC of 180.

    2. A doctor who has 12 papers published during his/her career are great. A doctor who is published 50 times is a superhero. Dr. Schauss has 132, and he isn’t finished.

    3. I can’t find an independent web site for Fruit A Vie, so I have to assume that Sams Club paid a silent 3rd party company to produce a cheap Acai drink copy with a spiffy label. How come no doctors are quoted as supporting Frut A Vie? Where is the double blind in-vitro (test tube) study, supporting their Fruit A Vie claims?

    4. Seems like Costco just paid a promo company to write a nice product review, using numbers already published from other studies, where the quality of the competing samples may (or may not) be asserted.

    5. Monavie’s wildfire-like growth is being fueled by it’s great product. If you have great results, you want to tell your friends. If you do, and they buy, you’ll get a first-order bonus. Will Sams Club give you that???

    If anyone can post this review to the Sams Club blog, please do! I can’t, since I don’t belong to Sams Club.

  14. mike permalink
    April 20, 2009 12:21 am

    http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?&dest=5&item=363774&cid=SearchResult%7C53881%7CDrinkables+Miracle+Fruits+of+the+World+-+30+oz.

    Here is a link to product sold at Sam’s club. 30 oz for 20.00

    15 fruits and herbs
    Over 45,000 O.R.A.C units
    Outstanding antioxidant
    Great fruity taste
    Blueberry extract just added
    Plus 8 more fruits and herbals
    Containers: 1
    Servings Per Container: 30
    Serving Size: 1 oz.
    Contains 98% juice from juice and juice concentrate
    Directions: 1 fluid oz. per day (2 tablespoons)
    Shake well and serve chilled
    Refrigerate after opening
    To assure freshness, consume within 60 days of opening

  15. Joecool permalink
    April 20, 2009 12:31 pm

    Mona Vie has a doctor backing it. Research, blah blah blah.

    So what does Mona Vie do for your health that is any better than Fruit A Vie or any other drink?

  16. Joecool permalink
    April 20, 2009 12:54 pm

    Just a thought. If you are already spending $160 a month buying this juice, wouldn’t it be cheaper to buy acai berries and the 18 other fruits and just eat them? I see acai berries at my local grocer.

  17. mike permalink
    April 21, 2009 2:24 pm

    “2. A doctor who has 12 papers published during his/her career are great. A doctor who is published 50 times is a superhero. Dr. Schauss has 132, and he isn’t finished.”

    I was thinking about that today, and wondered what that has to really do with anything. Outside of the fact this guy likes to publish papers. And of those papers written how does it apply to the topic at hand.

  18. aquart permalink
    May 12, 2009 2:08 am

    19 fruits? Is one of them…let me guess…APPLE?

    What percentage is magic acai berry?

    I dunno. I’m thinking this drink is at least 70% apple juice?

  19. Irv permalink
    May 12, 2009 9:25 pm

    Don’t forget the white and purple grape juice concentrates. It has a lot of cheap ingredients and preservatives like sodium benzoate and potassium sorbate.

    The Costco juice is probably no better or worse than Monavie but it costs only half as much. They are both overpriced though. Instead of paying $45 for a bottle of Monavie’s second-rate grape juice, buy real grape juice and you’ll pay only a few bucks for a jug and get more nutrients and antioxidants than Monavie provides.

  20. Erin permalink
    June 13, 2009 9:34 am

    azmike: “3. I can’t find an independent web site for Fruit A Vie, so I have to assume that Sams Club paid a silent 3rd party company to produce a cheap Acai drink copy with a spiffy label. ”

    Really?? For someone who seems interested in science, that is about as unscientific statement one can make. Because YOU can’t find a website, it then you HAVE TO assume a silent 3rd party making a cheap drink? Oh yes, this sounds logical, indeed.

    Perhaps you should assume that you don’t know how to find their website.

    It’s right here: http://www.fruitology4life.com

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