Whose Dream Are You Celebrating at an R3Global Dream Day?
Just went to a R3Global Monavie Dream Days 2009 conference in Anaheim.
THIS IS MY OPINION NOT YOURS SO PLEASE DONT GET TOO UPSET ITS AN OPINION OF MINE NOT YOURS.
Anyways I have been doing this for 2 months about am on autoship 1 case actively but about to change the active part.
Dream Days felt very weird. Different from parties or local events.
The 13 hours of seminars seemed interesting. The ticket was $175 U.S. and I feel screwed.
The day was uber republican christian messages, hate speech about certain political issues. The speakers were a youth group non denom Christian pastor, a self help author that speaks to teens at school functions about god, a self help religious writer, Brig Hart and various salesman for the company, I felt scared after some of these talks, it was religious with no acceptance of anything else but what if you’re future biggest salesman is an athiest or homosexual or intelectual (cheap shot sorry).
It was also a day of goal planning, recruiting tactics an dream talk which is totally fine. Come on though I’m chrisitian and I felt they were using the lord a bit much it doesnt feel right when you’re talking about $$ and him in the same sentence.
Brig Hart even mentioned one of his buddies in the company how they lied to him about being interested in Monavie and went to a different MLM. I had no clue what he was talking about so it scared me when he started yelling about it. The crowd seriously stood up and roared well at least about 75% of the crowd…yelling for vengeance and bad mouthing a man they didn’t really know.
I checked out mentally and was non responsive after that point.
If he’s a real Christian he should just cast greed and hate and live a life of forgiveness and love. Poor guy, his wife even stated that all the women in the audience need financially stable men….in the U.S. at a Monavie meeting…she c*** blocked the whole place. How can you love someone with that mentality.
I’m all for the Monavie juice bring down the cost to average wine…about 10 a bottle and sure maybe. O.J. is cheaper and yields proven results while giving more realistic jobs to America.
R3 Global is a cult.
Never mix religion and capitalism.
btw I’m new here.
Posted by: Eric | November 2, 2009 9:06 AM
Dream Days is one of Brig Hart’s R3Global International’s major functions. Eric’s description matches up pretty well with what I saw first-hand at INA-sponsored events when I was in the business. It’s pretty clear that some things haven’t changed much in the past decade with regards to MLM-based “training” and motivational organizations. In North American, the lines between religion, politics, sex, and money are very blurred within these groups. The reason why these topics are so entwined here is because the organization’s leaders need something to keep their groups together. The products alone aren’t enough to do this, so they get them with the three taboos.
Dream Days is coming up soon to the San Francisco area; I wonder how Brig’s right-wing, fundamentalist Christian views are going to be received there?
Update November 2, 2009: Here’s an excellent response to Eric’s comment on Purple Horror:
I just read Eric’s post…
I have been a Mona Vie distributor for almost two years. I have some very high level MV Distributors in my upline, including Brig Hart.
My wife and I worked MV VERY hard for the first 18 months. We have signed up over 50 people personally, and NOT ONE of them got off the ground (only ONE even became a Star!!!). We have not gotten past Star 1000. Our power leg has almost 600,000 PV, but we have not gotten ANYTHING going on our inside leg. We recently dropped from 2 cases to 1 case auto-ship, and I stopped drinking it a few months back, to save money. Our credit card that we dedicated soley to the MV business has $14k on it from product, supplies, tools, and of course, several MV and R3 Global conferences. I burned up all of my frequent flier points for these, as well. We made $2k in commissions last year, and will not even make $1.5k this year.
I have a couple of Golds and Silvers on the power side of my downline, and their businesss are stagnating. I have seen Bronzes go dormant, which amazes me, as they should be solidly in the black at that point! The problem is the inside leg collapses, and although you are still called a Star 1000 or Bronze, your income just dried up, and you need to start over…
My wife and I are vacillating about whether to walk away or try again. The problem is, we went through the rolodex already, and I am just not wired up to talk to everybody I meet in a grocery checkout lane or who sits next to me on an airplane. My wife is MUCH better at that, and has done it, but the one or two she signed up that way did nothing (like everybody else we signed up). It’s almost like a gambling problem…so hard to just up and quit when we are down so much.
From the get-go I thought that $30+ for a bottle was outrageous, but I thought maybe this had merit, as I really respect the person who signed me up and promised me help. He definitely put the time (and money) into us, but even those he helped us sign up did nothing. His answer (and I believe it to be true in it’s purest form) is “more”! More contacts, more appointments, more signups, until we hit the “right” ones. He is always there to offer training and support, but still we cannot gain any traction! In watching the downline dwindle, I have come to realize that I am not the only one to have these problems.
I WANT to believe in the MLM concept! There SHOULD be an alternative for the average guy or couple sick and tired of the corporate rat race! Why DOESN’T this work for most of us?
Back to Eric…I am a committed Christian, and I too am concerned about the “God” thing going on in Mona Vie.
First of all, most of the Executive Staff at Mona Vie is Mormon. As a Bible-believer, I have serious questions about whether Mormons are Christians or not. Brig Hart isn’t Mormon, but he is certainly over the top a lot and can make me quite uncomfortable with some of his diatribes.
As an aside, here’s a topic for discussion: If the Mormon thing does not have God’s blessing, then will hooking up with them for a business venture get His blessing?
Second, I agree that mixing Christianity and capitalism is definitely dangerous, but from the perspective of using (abusing?) one’s faith to legitimize a business to others.
Chick-Fil-A is an incredible, Christian-owned, Christian principle-run company, and God is obviously blessing them, but they are NOT exploiting their faith to do it. Wall Street probably laughs at them for giving up all those profits they could be making if they were open on Sundays. That’s why they can never do an IPO. If they did, then Earnings Per Share would become their god. If a company plans for controlled growth, they shouldn’t need the capital infusion from an IPO.
I have heard rumblings of an IPO for Mona Vie. The day that is announced, I will know that the whole thing was a ploy for a few to get rich (I am already quite close to believing that already).
BTW, I am aware of Dallin Larsen’s past experiences with MLM’s, as well.
So many questions…
Posted by: Anonymous | November 2, 2009 7:44 PM