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MonaVie and New FTC Guidelines

December 2, 2009

LazyMan has an excellent post explaining how the new FTC Guidelines affect companies like MonaVie and Amway. Will this prevent people from making outlandish claims? Who knows, but it’s good to see the FTC taking some action in this arena.

16 Comments leave one →
  1. Annon permalink
    December 2, 2009 7:09 pm

    Two thoughts: No more “2-5 year plan to Diamond” and full disclosure on tool income when Diamonds endorse the next function.

  2. Candace permalink
    December 3, 2009 11:22 am

    Yes, and have you seen the reply from MonaVie to LazyMan’s comment on MonaVie’s blog about the FTC’s new guidelines?
    Good stuff over here:

    MonaVie didn’t take any responsibility for their employee’s conduct, nor did they apologize, but they did admit that it was a violation.

  3. Joecool permalink
    December 3, 2009 11:41 am

    It’s like Amway. They have indepedent sales people (IBOs) so the corporation cannot possibly control the actions of their entire sales force.

  4. Candace permalink
    December 3, 2009 11:48 am

    They’ve hidden behind that for years, Amway, MonaVie, and other MLMs.

    Looks like the FTC now begs to differ.

    From LazyMan’s article (link is in Amthrax’ post above) about the new FTC guidelines and MonaVie:

    “Analysis: A long time ago, I compared MonaVie to Napster. Both Distributors and MonaVie themselves claimed that they can’t be held accountable for the bad apples. Napster tried this defense when its users were stealing music. It didn’t work then and it doesn’t work now. MonaVie now seems to acknowledge this in light of the FTC guidelines. No longer can Larsen say “It’s next to impossible like herding cats.” The FTC can simply respond with, “find a new way of distributing your juice or don’t distribute it.”

  5. December 3, 2009 5:28 pm

    Thanks for linking to my article there. I appreciate it.

  6. December 6, 2009 11:20 am

    Hi all,

    Just something I am very curious… how is it that Anti-Amway kingpins seem to default to referencing MONAVIE first instead of AMWAY nowadays?

    More importantly, why is it Amway/MonaVie in the same breath in recent years? 🙂

  7. bigTmoney permalink
    December 7, 2009 8:13 am

    Can this company/fad please fad into oblivion so i can have my wife back. It Christmas for F@ck sake and she wants to blow money on “juice”. Sigh, we are in debt enough as it is and she has this belief that monavie will save us. The Christian/God spin they put on it has really brainwashed her.

    Go FTC!!!

  8. Phoenix00 permalink
    December 7, 2009 11:05 am

    Because Amway built Monavie. Brig Hart, Orrin Woodward, Steve Merritt 3 of the top earners in the company all ex-Amway all BOUGHT by Monavie. And where do you think they’re distributors are coming from?

    That’s right… Amway.

  9. December 8, 2009 12:33 am

    Are you SURE Steve Merritt was a big short in Amway?

    I do not remember any “Amway Diamond Steve Merritt” ever… but of course, I stand to be corrected.

    And, I get the impression that Anti-Amway kingpins are now going after MONAVIE more than Amway… do you not think so?

    Maybe henceforth we should all call them Anti-MonaVie Kingpins henceforth. AMKs. hehe

    Thanks, Rykel

  10. December 8, 2009 1:28 pm

    Rykel: Read your leader’s post here:

    Why did I bring up the Amway statement? Because both the Hart’s and Merritt’s were in Amway, which means that the top 3 recognized leaders were all former Amway leaders that now are reaching top levels in MonaVie. I believe the Hart’s were double diamonds and the Merritt’s were emeralds in Amway.

  11. December 9, 2009 6:21 am

    Hello Amthrax, thanks for pointing out the link! Much appreciated… from Emerald to Crowne Black Diamond sure sounds like a HUGE jump in personal income!! hehe 🙂

  12. Major Dave Stoner permalink
    December 9, 2009 3:36 pm

    Hey rykel98, do you really think Oral Woodhead gives a damn about you or any of the other sheeple who follow him? I remember being just like you when I first started TEAM. I defended everything TeaM stood for when friends and family put TEAM down. How right they were. Rykel, don’t you think its fair that when someone leaves their old MLM and joins Monavie that they become a diamond or what ever and become these huge leaders in the business? Do you think the Reverend Jim Jones would have been a big success in TEAM? I bet he would. He had God, Money, Koolaid and his loyal followers all brainwashed. Too bad he didn’t have tools to sell.

  13. Candace permalink
    December 10, 2009 10:18 am

    There are many ex-Amway diamonds now in MonaVie. Aside from the Ex-Amway kingpins already discussed in this thread, at first glance, from the field leader’s page;

    Randy and Valorie Haugen (Black Rock Unlimted, LLC)
    Mark and Tami Crawford
    John and Barbara Sims (Sims Inc.)
    Jerrel and Leslie Emery
    Lance and Tracey Smith
    Jack and Effie Reid (J. L. Reid Co., Inc.)

    Not pictured or listed, but known to be a MonaVie distributor:
    Bruce Anderson

    There are many, many others that are highly suspect as being ex-Amway. I will not list them as I am not 100% sure. My reasons for not listing more are below:

    1. People are pictured, look familiar, but no personal names listed, only a business name.

    2. Names are listed, but no picture to verify.

    3. No picture, no personal name listed, only a business name. But business name is suspect, i.e, “Dream Builders”, or “Terminated”.

    4. Certain the person pictured was in Amway previously, but not an Amway Diamond.

    It might be fun to have other readers here look over the list and cite the ex-Amway people they can verify with 100% certainty.

  14. Candace permalink
    December 10, 2009 10:21 am

    Rykel, two things:

    1. We shall see how you feel about your above statement when your upline Diamond takes 80% of your downline with him/her to the next latest greatest just like Amway only better mlm.

    2. I did not see you listed on the MonaVie Field Leader’s page seen here:

    Did I just overlook you?

  15. December 10, 2009 10:34 am

    Hello Candace,

    Thanks for taking the time to write… I would love to answer your questions.

    BUT for Qn 1, I am not too sure which statement of mine were you referring to… and how does that statement relate to an upline Diamond taking 80% of my downline to the next greatest mlm?

    As for Qn 2, no you did not miss me, because I am not featured there on that page. Maybe in the future? 😉

    God Bless Candace.

  16. Candace permalink
    December 10, 2009 10:43 am

    You stated that you didn’t understand why MonaVie and Amway are often mentioned in the same breath or sentence together. When Amthrax kindly explained, your only response was how wonderful it was that the ex-Amway kingpin’s income went up when they jumped ship from Amway to MonaVie. You missed the point entirely.

    Based on your interpretation of reality, which is that the ship-jumping was a good thing, I replied that we will see how wonderful you think that is when it happens to you because your now MonaVie upline finds something better and takes most of your downline with them, leaving you bereft. The odds of that happening are pretty high, based on past track records of mlm kingpins.

    It’s hard to comprehend what part of that you don’t understand.

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