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Tweet of the Day: “I Don’t Make Any Money Going.”

August 14, 2010

Saw this tweet on the R3Global Twitter page. Black Diamond Frank Soucinek is talking to the assembled guests about the upcoming Family Reunion 2010:

Frank Soucinek: I believe in each and everyone one of you. If this couple from Lake City, can do it, you can too….
about 22 hours ago via Facebook

After watching the video, I think the appropriate quote from Diamond Frank should have been this:

I don’t make any money going, I’m paying for it myself.

Go to the 3:30 mark in the video to see Frank make this claim.

The quote bears repeating:

I don’t make any money going, I’m paying for it myself.

Really now? Two thoughts come to mind:

  1. Frank is lying through his teeth. Maybe that’s why he’s raising his arms to the sky as if to pray to God to not strike him down for lying.
  2. Frank has really been screwed out of the tools profits by Brig!

Can Frank or anyone at R3Global answer the following questions then?

  1. Why do I need to put down my upline’s name on the Family Reunion order form?
  2. Why do I need to put down my upline’s name whenever I buy tools these events?

I went to the Marriott World Center Resort web site to look at hotel prices for the dates of Family Reunion and found that I could get the hotel room for two for $161/night ($142 for AAA members). Assuming (big assumption here) that R3Global is not getting a discounted price for the rooms, a distributor couple would be paying an extra $484 for the catered breakfast, dinner, and motivational events for the weekend. While $500 for a conference might seem reasonable to some, remember that’s just the minimum price. We must also factor in the costs of travel, tools purchases and donations to the MORE Project (i.e. more money to MonaVie). Unless the MonaVie Jet fleet is going to start ferrying distributors to and from events, the Black Diamonds aren’t going to see any revenue from the travel expenses. They will, however, earn money from all the tools — tapes, CDs, brochures, posters, etc. — sold during the conference1.

Where does that money go? Why back up the distribution chain. Distributor to upline to upline to upline to upline. Everyone that’s high up in the chain gets their little cut, which is precisely why distributors are instructed to enter their upline’s name on the order form. So, you want to hold Frank at his word? Don’t enter anything in the those fields.

1 You know, it wouldn’t bother me so much if the Diamonds within these Amway and MonaVie Motivational Organizations made it crystal clear that a large percentage of their income came from the sale of tools and function tickets.

12 Comments leave one →
  1. Mandy permalink
    August 18, 2010 8:20 pm

    After being a year in Quixtar I was convinced only those that had started in
    Amway 10 years before were the ones that made money. I came across this
    movie that is a mockumentary about Amway. It’s truthful and funny!

  2. Vogel permalink
    August 19, 2010 7:24 am

    Fantastic movie! I laughed so hard I nearly split my liver. It’s so eerily reminscent of Monavie and probably Amway even more so. I loved the scene where the prospect challeneges the distributor to drink floor polish, after he had bragged that it was safe enough to drink, who then ends up being rushed to the hospital in an ambulance. Classic!

    I highly recommend this movie!

  3. Diamond permalink
    August 19, 2010 7:29 am

    Mandy, we both agree on this. You are convinced that only those that had started in
    Amway 10 years before were the ones that made money. Your conviction has told you to quit and be a quitter. I am convinced that I, who have started in 2010, one year after you have quit, am the one who is going Diamond. My conviction has told me to win and be a winner. It’s truthful and funny!

  4. August 19, 2010 7:38 am

    Diamond – It’s been seven months since your first post (as Clear on my Man Cave MLM post). What level are you at now? How many more years until you hit Diamond?

  5. Vogel permalink
    August 19, 2010 7:41 am

    Quit and be a quitter? That’s classic cult-speak. Why chastize someone for making a personal choice to bail on Amway and do something (anything) else with their life?

  6. Mandy permalink
    August 19, 2010 7:52 am

    Yes, Diamond. Your attitude is what turns people away from Amway. There’s too many people like you in the business so people shun it because of your attitude. You’re a perfect example of what a Diamond should not be. You are not shining as Diamonds should. I know the best Diamonds in the business and they don’t talk like you do, but they’ve doing this a LOOOOONG time too.

    Keep pushing the products with lower profit margins than Mary Kay and Avon. With your attitude no one will buy from you for long. It’s karma. Those that are successful in any business don’t walk around with hateful attitudes like yours. For real Mr./Ms. Diamond I’m making more money NOT doing Amway and am financially free, no 9-5 and guess what, no products to push either. Don’t have to show the plan. Don’t have to drive around and spend money for conferences.

    What are your options???? For real keep your options open and don’t get stuck on just one business model. Truthful speak, no fluff, no hype and no products.

  7. Diamond permalink
    August 19, 2010 7:55 am

    None of your business Amthrax. You’re not the one who builds my business. If you were, we would work something out together. Since we aren’t, you have zero clue! Now, mind your own business!

  8. Mandy permalink
    August 19, 2010 7:57 am

    @Vogel, Yes, this movie was great 🙂 Shows people what not to do that so many DO do.

  9. August 19, 2010 1:33 pm

    Diamond, if you say it will be done in a public forum, then it is you who have made it everyone’s business.

    You ain’t even close to diamond.


    Nor will you be.

  10. Joecool permalink
    August 19, 2010 3:01 pm

    Sigh. If I had a dime everytime someone came on a forum shouting “I’m going diamond”, I would be a multi millionaire by now. 🙂

  11. Burned Out with Mona Vie permalink
    August 23, 2010 3:13 pm

    Ohhhhhhhhhh, “Tools and Brig” mentioned in the same sentence, can’t wait to see how this lawsuit turns out.

  12. Just Another Failure permalink
    September 1, 2010 5:33 am

    This is SO funny I used to be just like diamond (notice the little d). Just a couple quick points then I’ll go away:

    1. Just because you can never turn a turd into a diamond, no matter how much you believe it so its just not possible. You can polish it and shine it all you want, in the end you still have a turd and your hands are dirty.

    2. Financial freedom and freedom in general is not the exclusive domain of any MLM. There are many roads to success. However if it makes you feel better about yourself and what you have to do to be “successful” then please continue to cast the rest of us as losers.

    3. Find yourself a good financial advisor, eliminate debt and make some sacrifices, you’ll be 100x better off than wandering around the country hoping for a scrap of wisdom to fall of the “table of truth”.

    Warm Regards,
    Just Another Failure

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