Comment of the Week: Witty Describes Ohio Leadership Convention
The Comment of the Week comes from a reader known as “Witty name describing current circumstances”. He or she recently attended the TEAM Leadership Convention in Columbus, Ohio.
Witty’s first comment showed a TEAM member who was at a crossroads with the business:
Hey guys, thanks for helping a big, (although young and gullible) dreamer open his eyes and finally take a look at Team from a different perspective. After what I’ve read on this site, it’s just a matter of time before I sever my ties with the business for good. I have a ticket to the major at the end of this month, so I think I’ll go to that (especially the way they keep hyping it up….might as well see what they’re going to be trying next if i already “invested” in my ticket). They’ve hyped the darn thing up enough that even someone on the way out feels compelled to see what’s happening, which either means something big might actually happen, or they’re grasping for whatever they can get (who knows)
To the former team leaders who have been posting I have some questions. At what level did you start to realize that the business wasn’t quite all it’s cracked up to be? Was it only after closer encounters with your “moving on upline” and pc members? I ask because the highest leader I encounter on a consistent basis is a silver (mostly hang with bronzes and star 1000s) and I just can’t imagine that they would still be as psyched as they seem to be if they knew about the experiences you guys have been talking about. I’ve brought up this site and others and was told that most of the info was largely fictional, which I find somewhat difficult to believe. But yeah I’m still attending opens and seminars, but have stopped it with CDs because all they do is get me excited to be loose with my wallet and go out and buy more and more and more (i’m sure I’m some of these profit sharers dream guy….young, naïve, excitable, nice little savings account etc.) In my heart I feel like leaving is going to be the best decision for me. I’m a very happy person in general, but thinking about still going to opens and such makes me feel queesy…the only time I feel negative is when thinking about Team. Of course the system would attribute that to me not being willing to step outside of my comfort zone to chase my dream, but I think life will again begin to be colorful once again once people become people again instead of “prospects.” Anywho I tend to ramble so sorry for the long post, if you could address some of what I said I’d much appreciate!
Peace and Love!
Readers on this blog provided Witty with their perspective based on their own TEAM experiences. There are always two sides to every story. People who are looking at joining (or quitting) TEAM should always consider both when deciding what to do.
Speak and John, the get in to get rich stay in to get right was actually said onstage, and probably then tweeted by someone in the audience.
How LIFE is going to “work.” A person who is buying products on autoship will be called a subscriber, and those building the business and getting those cds/books will be “on system.” The LIFE program will have three separate monthly programs you can subscribe to: LIFE consisting of a book and two CDs, LLR, consisting of a book and two CDs, and AGO, consisting of a book and one CD. In addition, they will have products to fill all the 8Fs so that people can click on the F that they want to improve, and be directed to that page. If you’re on system, you will receive a book of the month, two team CDs and two SOL (standing order leadership) CDs. Sounds like MVS is going bye-bye. By the sounds of it, they are going to be trying to tweak things to still have monavie associated in the fitness F, but outside of Jeff Graham, the North American president or something, coming out and talking about the products, Monavie was pretty much not talked about (It’s about community, not product!) The fact that they are taking two categories available to people on system now (AGO, LLR) and are moving them into their product line for LIFE definitely seemed a little fishy to me. I will admit, their website was pretty cool sounding when it came to how to keep track of your downline, but that was pretty much the only nice thing. They wouldn’t even say a single word about any type of products that would be seen come 11-1-11, as they knew we “wouldn’t be able to keep it a secret” and be “promoting something that hasn’t happened yet” and blah blah blah; in my head all I heard was give me your money at the next major so YOU CAN BE THE FIRST TO HEAR ABOUT OUR “WORLD CLASS” PRODUCTS! I mean come on!
Other fun facts: In addition to Dan and Lisa being recognized for PC, Claude and Lana were recognized for going double PC, and Tim and Amy were recognized for triple PC.
So from now until the October major, the “biggest squeeze play of all time” is going to be run. The plan that will be shown will pretty much remain the same, but will promote what is coming out in November.
I mentioned in an earlier comment kind of how some of the pay structure was going to work (not may area of expertise at all and it was a little over my head so don’t quote me on this next amount of info.) They said whereas other compensation plans only offered 4% off of downline product, this new plan will offer 8%. Just trying to think about what they were trying to talk about is confusing me now, so I think I’ll leave it at that. Maybe the leaders know that the average person will not understand how compensation plans work, and just promise DOUBLE of what others would pay (or at least make that claim) leading to more excitement and we all knows what happens when that group gets fired up….
So that’s my blurb about the major, let me know if you have questions, I’ll try to get them answered.
Moving on, I just want to thank you all for helping me open my eyes just a little bit. Being younger and more naïve about what really goes on in the world, I probably would have gone into extreme debt had I not started to see the light. Funny how I was listening to a Claude and Lana Hamilton CD at work one day, and thought “I should google search for pictures of these guys that would be fun,” and lo and behold, I found this website. After reading pretty much every article I could find, I was shocked to read that some leaders aren’t even in Orrin’s downline. I, along with probably the majority of people still on Team, assumed that Claude and Lana were downline of Orrin. That was the first among many red flags that went up as I continued to absorb the info on this site.
What’s crazy is that even trying to see things from a more critical stand, I caught myself again starting to buy-in to what was being said on stage this weekend. It just blows my mind that these “leaders” can so flawlessly lie with smiles and excitement…..I guess I’m still trying to find the good in people because that’s what I’ve been taught to do my whole life. But, alas, that was probably my downfall in joining up and buying what Team was selling me.
So very soon I will be leaving Team for good. You’d think that would be easy, but even now, reading what I’ve read, it’s a struggle. But it has to be done.
It’s weird though, because even though I feel like I’ve been duped, I still almost feel thankful for some of what I’ve learned through Team. Maybe that’s the system that’s still somewhat floating around in my brain, or maybe my eternal optimistic attitude, but I’m glad I know have an appreciation for reading, a desire to actually fight for the dreams I had before that Team brainwashed me into thinking would lead me to living a miserable life (I mean let’s be honest, dreaming about being a doctor is absolutely ABSURD! Why would I ever trade time for money in my own S business when I could hand over half my life savings to Orrin and the PC in hopes of being “retired” in 2-5 years!) And most importantly, I have decided to try and start to find God in my life (although I will be doing my best to make sure the ideas about God and Jesus from Team are replaced with teachings from people without ulterior motives.
So, sorry for the long post, just thought I’d share and get a few things off my chest. Thanks!
I know exactly how Witty felt when I made the decision to leave “the business.” No one likes to feel duped. The sooner that you accept that you’ve been taken for a ride, however, the faster you’ll be able to move on!