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Dallin Larsen, Jr.: MonaVie Whistleblower?

January 20, 2012

Several readers pointed out a new article on JuiceScam about Dallin Larsen, Jr., the son of MonaVie Founder Dallin Larsen. Junior apparently has had it with MonaVie and wants to get out. This is something that will be worth following in the coming weeks and months. Will MonaVie find a way to quiet him, or will the top completely blow off of MonaVie?

  1. Vogel permalink
    January 20, 2012 1:45 pm

    Did you notice the comments that Dallin Jr. is getting on his Facebook page? Randy Schroeder desperately begging Junior to call him, and various distributors launching a love-bombing campaign, like in this comment from kingpin Susana Allongo (wife of scam doctor and MV distributor/spokesman Jose Allongo):

    “Dallin, After I read your post yesterday, i prayed that you and your father would find peace between each other. I know its hard to visualize but all parents and children have many disagreements during their lifetime, but that does not mean that we love you less, it is that probably we love you more than what you will ever know and want and expect from you could be too overwelming. Or we are sure you will raise to the chalenge. Because in our eyes you are our own young super hero. I remember when the company started and how proud he was to introduce his first son to all of us. As you worked to make this happen moving boxes and loading trucks, he might not told you but he was proud as heck of you, as we all were. We all even looked at you as the model for our children. But this is not about us it is about you, and how you have grown over the years. Right now you are in a moment of your life were you find some crossroads, pick one and Make a new start, but realize one day you might be in the same posicion as your father and will make desicions regarding your children that you will not like but have to be made. Find peace in your soul, you are an amazing bright young man and your future is amazing with or without the company. We all love you for what you are and so does your family, give yourselves some time and you will find a way to overcome this hurdle that presented in your path.
    Susana Allongo”

    Here’s a thought for Susan. Mind your own F-ing business scammer!

  2. Speak Your Truth permalink
    January 20, 2012 2:33 pm

    I really pray that whatever it is Dallin Jr. wants the FBI to know, he keeps the courage and doesn’t back down to the pressure or being bought or any love bombing people want to try.

    If he knows things are wrong, they are that serious and should be turned in to the FBI, then I pray he follows through on principle and prevent whatever damage could be done. That is a true man of integrity and hero in my opinion.

  3. Speak Your Truth permalink
    January 20, 2012 2:39 pm

    That would be the same displayed courage the Madoff son’s showed America; by turning their own Father in because it was Wrong what he did to hurt so many others. That takes more courage and guts than any of the so called leaders who are covering up and lying to thousands of people, they are the cowards. Those who do the right thing are the real hero’s so I am counting on Dallin Jr to be a hero.

  4. January 20, 2012 4:26 pm

    Sorry to burst your hopes, but I don’t think this is simply a MonaVie issue. Read his full comments, there’s a key sentence – “You have all been lied to, they are poisoning you in order to depopulate, don’t buy it”

    Either the guy was under the influence of something while writing, or he’s showing signs of paranoid schizophrenia. I don’t think even the most ardent MV critic thinks they’re “poisoning you in order to depopulate”?

    Many of his other posts verge on similar incoherent rants. I suspect the guy might be ill or an addict. Unless other info comes to light it’s perhaps best to leave him out of the debate and hope he gets treatment.

  5. Vogel permalink
    January 20, 2012 10:31 pm

    Seems a little presumptuous (and kinda douchey) to make a psychiatric diagnosis on the basis of a Facebook post. How ’bout we leave you out of the debate instead?

  6. No Team For Me permalink
    January 20, 2012 11:04 pm

    Never thought I would agree with IBOfightback, but on this one, I would have to agree. I have met Dallin Jr and without getting into all the details, he really is going through a rough time right now that would make any parent’s heart bleed.

    As much as I can’t stand Orrin & his behavior, I would never wish anything like this on his kids.

  7. January 21, 2012 5:49 am


    I actually have qualifications in the area, and I didn’t make the “diagnosis” (I wouldn’t go so far as to call it that, merely a warning) based on one post, I read his timeline for quite a bit to get a sense of him and there are numerous pretty classic signs.of a problem.

    I can diagnose you too if you wish 😉

  8. Vogel permalink
    January 21, 2012 8:52 am

    Really? What exactly are those qualifications? Does Amway sell books on psychiatry now or did you get a psych degree by mailing in some Cap-N-Crunch box tops?

    It was a massive overreach and you should have backpedaled instead of trying to defend it. You threw out 2 baseless speculations — paranoid schizophrenia and drug addition. I highly doubt you have the necessary qualifications to diagnose either under any scenario, let alone from a few Facebook posts.

    Dallin Sr. is a manipulative lying a-hole. Junior called that one right. Doing so doesn’t make him a schizophrenic drug addict; and besides, even a drug addict has enough sense to call a spade a spade in this situation.

  9. Speak Your Truth permalink
    January 21, 2012 9:07 am

    I don’t believe anyone on here; would not have empathy for any parent and child and certainly don’t want to play on Dallin Jr. or anyone else’s heartbreaking issues of such a serious nature; if that is what is going on. Any good person wouldn’t. And if it is the case with Dallin Jr..I hope and pray he gets the help he needs and recovers.

    We wouldn’t be on here at all if we didn’t care about others being hurt and damaged.
    It is because of those using, the mind numbing/controlling systems on others for their own personal gain and the lack of ‘business opportunity’ the farce really is.

    Too many have been on the receiving end of Orrin & the PC’s… lack of empathy or advice on tough issues to deal with; it would be “Buck UP”…go build your business, and do something about it… because he doesn’t want anyone to slow down from scamming others or the $$$ to even remotely slow down to him.

    Every stupid decision they have made and others experiences; clearly proves this. If they become ill, need time to heal or deal with and reflect and handle these types of issues, or even would have family issues, he sends his fall guys to do his dirty work and uses many mafia style tactics; to strip others of their influence in their groups or has his puppets just send a text and tell them they are ‘voted out’…leaving them now with financial issues because they have NO more business or income…overnight. Oh how much and they show they care.

    He shows NO empathy and they are the most heartless, arrogant scumbags, when it comes to others issues; but plays the victim when it is him/them who goes through trials and tribulations.

  10. Finally permalink
    January 21, 2012 9:14 am

    Regardless of what Dallin Jr. is going through he is more qualified to know what his father is doing and has done than any of us are. I would suspect, being he is his son, that he would be privy to wayyyyyy more than the people trying to attack and discredit him. Having some type of addiction does not disqualify Dallin Jr. from knowing what he knows. Trying to slander him to discredit him is a tactic used when someone is afraid of the truth. Time will tell what Junior knows and how it can hurt his Father. The reality of it is if his father has done nothing wrong there is nothing for his Son to come forward with.

  11. Speak Your Truth permalink
    January 21, 2012 9:16 am

    Vogel says: “Does Amway sell books on psychiatry now or did you get a psych degree by mailing in some Cap-N-Crunch box tops?”

    That is hilarious, but not that far off according to a defender. I have seen a commenter go through this whole defense on how you can learn or they teach psychology; on Team, now! I believe it was on Teamscam…

  12. Speak Your Truth permalink
    January 21, 2012 9:24 am


    I agree great points! I also know that if he would know something really damaging and has had to ‘oppress’ it; it would cause much mental and emotional damage…I know from experience that if your conscience is being compromised, (when you begin to wake up as proof shows up) or whether fully aware of it or not…it causes severe stress and damage. We also know at least with the mind controlling system pressure it confuses and creates cognitive dissonance and the PC are paranoid in many situations.

  13. Mike Collins permalink
    January 21, 2012 10:02 am

    IBO Fightback: you’re still trying to convince people that Amway is a legitimate business opportunity and you’re callin Jr. crazy? That’s classic…….

  14. Dorothy permalink
    January 21, 2012 7:40 pm

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  15. das permalink
    January 22, 2012 6:04 am

    @Finally “Having some type of addiction does not disqualify Dallin Jr. from knowing what he knows.”

    I agree 100% and further more, when I was using, anything that lowered my inhibitions caused me to say things that I normally would keep secret.

    In recovery we have a saying that is very true for me…”you are only as sick as your secrets”.

    It’s pretty cool to not have to live a lie today! I wonder what Teamer’s see when they look in the mirror? Oh…that’s right, they see their “DREAM”…it’s written on their mirror so they don’t have to look at themselves. lmao

  16. Speak Your Truth permalink
    January 22, 2012 9:28 am


    Thanks for sharing that; …”you are only as sick as your secrets”. Oh how true that is! That sums it up in 8 words! The Top guys are so clever and masters at covering up and keeping the ‘secrets’ by controlling and withholding information that it confuses and keeps the minds captive and takes a long time to figure that out because of the phony ‘positive’ (truth of your feelings) allowed. Denial is the virus, that flourishes.

    Whatever the truth or case may be that has caused Dallin Jr. to say the things he has, I hope he can be strong and courageous and allow …the Truth to set him free! I hope he is reading this site and learns that there are people who are encouraging him and not trying to ‘tear him down’.

    Amen to both you and Webelieved! And even though it has been the biggest regret and most excruciatingly painful process, in our lives; because we falsely believed, with everything in us, that we were ‘helping’ people and blindly trusted those whom all along were abusing that trust.

    The silver lining is; I found Amthax site and all of you and now I am on the other side…trying to ‘help’ others to critically think, listen to their truth, and become truly free …not just ‘pretending’ to be…. Oh, the irony. I am so grateful for what they did that allowed us to finally ‘see’ who and what they really are, which in turn allowed us to flush the totalitarian cult environment and rid those sick and greedy people from our lives…nothing has been more freeing!

    I am also grateful for the lessons that will forever be etched in my memory and never again can or will we fall for or be blinded by such false ‘teachers’ and their schemes. It takes strength and courage but you become completely free when you wake up and stop denying your internal compass that has all along been warning you; something is wrong.

    Do your due diligence… by seeking the truth, think logically, the numbers don’t lie and use your common sense. Then the hard part; be courageous enough to face it…because, It will… truly set you free.

  17. Speak Your Truth permalink
    January 22, 2012 9:42 am

    Regardless of the Fear…false or real…I would rather die for the truth…than live with a lie.

  18. Finally permalink
    January 22, 2012 3:07 pm

    Thanks for sharing Das, you are, to borrow a team term “champion” only I mean it. Beating addiction is not easy, and using your experience to share with other’s is very commendable. As far as Jr, I pray for the best for him. Family can be tough and whatever he is going through and why is going to have to be painful before it get’s better.

  19. Finally permalink
    January 22, 2012 3:10 pm

    Grat line Speak, on dying for the truth……..not many would have the guts to do let alone say that. If only our former dictators on team had the same courage…………’s funny how they praise each other to no end yet none of them can stand alone………..they all need each other to make each other credible. None of them could go out in mainstream America an be taken seriously as a “leader”

  20. January 23, 2012 3:35 am

    Yes Vogel, I got my qualifications through Cap-N-Crunch box tops. Though I actually had to take them in to classes a top University and do exams, thesis etc etc.

    But please, Vogel, please elucidate on “the secret” of how, according to Jr (and apparently you) Mona Vie is deliberately poisoning people to depopulate the planet?

    Mike Collins – and you and Brent Hansen believe that personal use purchases, either as a customer or as goods withdrawn from stock, are to be accounted for as a business expense! Have you run that one by the IRS yet?

    And you’re calling me crazy …. 😉

  21. Brent Hansen permalink
    January 23, 2012 6:27 am


    Anytime you are prepared to provide evidence that proves that Amway is not an internal consumption model, I am sure that Michael or myself can be available to review such information with you. Until then, keep living in your fantasy world.

  22. January 23, 2012 8:04 am

    For the sake of preventing this thread from turning into a comment-attack fest on both sides, I’m going to disable comments on this post. We’ll wait and see what happens with Dallin Larsen, Jr. and MonaVie.

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