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Fakers and Poseurs are not Doers

September 27, 2012

TEAM/LIFE member Aron Radosa has a post entitled “Faker vs. Poser: More than the Same” in which he describes what he feels are the differences between Fakers in life and “Posers.” He wrote this post after listening to Chris Brady’s latest tool, “Depth or Psychiatry,” from the TEAM system. Disregarding the fact that he misspells the actual word “poseur,” Aron argues that poseurs are “achievers in progress.”

There’s a line commonly used in MLM circles called, “Fake it till you make it.” This seems to me what Aron’s definition of a poseur is, even though it uses the very term that he is distancing himself from.

The problem is that fakers and poseurs are not doers. The “make it” part of the quote never happens. They never get what they want done, and thus remain fakers and poseurs.

  • Faker – the outside world knows he is faking it. Even the faker knows he is faking.
  • Poseur – the outside world think he is faking it. The poseur believes he is not faking.
  • Doer – the outside world knows he is doing things. The doer knows he is doing things.

Aron – have you ever considered the possibility that the poseur is lying to himself and is really a faker? Once the faker/poseur realizes he’s been duped, he’ll become a doer by quitting the business. Sure, he’ll be called a “quitter” by the rest of the fakers and poseurs, but to the outside world and to himself, he’s a winner.

11 Comments leave one →
  1. September 27, 2012 8:51 am

    I guess that would make me a poseur….lol …. I was forking out the money but not bringing in the people! :-p

  2. Soon2BOut permalink
    September 27, 2012 9:16 am

    My ex best friend is in TEAM is a total faker/poser. She posts all these religious things on facebook, puts inspirational quotes, forks over so much money into LIEf…but has never made power player and shes been in the business for over 4 years. Oh yeah, she does a lot of drugs too. Hahaha. She really thinks she will make it in this “business”. She only makes friends to try to get them into TEAM. Once they say they don’t want anything to do with it, she drops them. What…..a loser.

  3. September 27, 2012 9:36 am

    Towards the end I think I was the opposite of a Poseur — people in TEAM/LIFE still thought I was doing it, but I knew I was faking! Just until I could find a way out. Turns out the way out was just cold turkey – stopping spending money, time, and energy being involved, and getting my REAL life back!

  4. ageofwisdom51 permalink
    September 27, 2012 2:32 pm

    amthrax: I really want to see the “Depth or Psychiatry” tool….where can I find it?

  5. ageofwisdom51 permalink
    September 27, 2012 2:46 pm

    Bwhahahahahha! I read Radosa’s blog (that smells of Orrin), and I see now he’s got Woodward and Brady, essentially, as two of the greatest “posers” (men with vision that we just fail to understand)……..LOL!! I’ve seen some of the references before….so I think W & B hatched most of the text, or else, Radosa just copied it……..judy LOVE the implication that W & B would be Major Norman Schwarzkopf’s type of guys! LOL!!

  6. ageofwisdom51 permalink
    September 27, 2012 3:00 pm

    Amthrax: wait, I forgot something….I see Radosa just HAD to bring up Oliver Demille’s name, too! LOL! C’mon here….I think there’s more to the financial back office than Woody just writing the preface/intro and publishing it……I just wonder WHEN or IF “Diploma” Demille isn’t going to have an “Orrin Woodward and Chris Brady Leadership Class” offering at he long-standingly unaccredited “university” now…..that university’s website has been up for over 10 years or so, and Demille says he’s STILL working on accreditation. Yikes….this is how Woody could make bundles of MO’ money, Mo’ money, more money! Hee hee. He’s gotta know that the “team tools” can’t last forever in LIFE…….like I’ve said before: no one claimed W & B were dummies…

  7. AlmostIn permalink
    September 28, 2012 4:36 am

    amthrax/wisdom: No, they are no dummies. But something that I read about the character disordered like them is that they like the attention good and bad it makes no difference. If they get reactions to anything they say or do, then they feel omnipotent/powerful The goal is to take this away from them. They don’t care that anyone is hurt by what they have done–not one bit. They count on this to rise them up to keep doing what they’re doing. The resitution in all of this is to help others see that this will hurt them because team/LIFE is not the answer to what they need more of in their lives.
    The facts need to be shown by comparing the P&P/Comp Plan with actions/words but in a way that states them unemotionally and logically. To these kinds of people it is a win/lose situation. They win, you lose (financially, critically, emotionally, etc.)
    The facts are what they will defend. The facts will show true character–you just have to (technically) sit back and watch the show, but react with facts–nothing more.

    I had to post this because this is a great site and know that it is out here for a good reason.
    I just had to say this because it is becoming so clear about the way these types of people function and how they have gotten this far for this long. Knowledge of the psychopathy will allow you to still be who you are but not give them what they seek.

  8. Burned Out With Mona Vie permalink
    September 28, 2012 7:27 am

    I have done that myself and I guess they all do to one degree or another, sad part is the ones on the “inside” are blinded by the hype all standing on chairs, yelling and clapping at the functions and the “outsiders” think it is laughable and walk away.

  9. No Team For Me permalink
    September 29, 2012 3:08 pm

    We just threw out close to 2,000 CD’s by these fakers. It felt GREAT!!!!

  10. Speak Your Truth permalink
    September 29, 2012 5:12 pm

    No Team For Me~

    Ain’t it great!

    Amthrax~

    Great Article…haha, Thanks for the laughs. They are both fakers and posers, they are good at fooling those involved because No One backs up what they say, they claim they are “exploding” but no proof of that and everything they say is HYPED but the outside world (all of us) and know it!

  11. Freedomhaha permalink
    September 29, 2012 7:59 pm

    No Team- Congrats! I have been trying to scrub my brain for the last 11 months. I didn’t realize how much garbage that I had in there until I tried to get it all out.

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