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TEAM/LIFE’s Chart Topper Event, the New Go Diamond Weekend

April 26, 2013

TEAM’s Chart Topper event is happening this weekend, April 26-28, in Tampa, Florida. By all accounts, this conference is a renamed version of TEAM’s old Go Diamond Weekend. That event was restricted to Silvers (7500 PV) and above, whereas Chart Topper requires attending members to be Student 15,000 (15,000 PV in monthly volume — personal and team combined) and above. Looking at the LIFE Compensation Plan, this level appears to be analogous to the Silver level in Amway.

Those familiar with Go Diamond Weekend tell me that Chart Topper may be the conference where the TEAM leadership takes the proverbial gloves off. The tone of the message will be different from the rest of the major leadership conventions each year — less rosy false happy (i.e. the business is great and exploding!) and more hardcore and serious. Expect to hear some less-than-positive talk under the guise of tough love from the TEAM/LIFE leadership.

Chart Topper tickets costs $150/person ($125/person if you bought early). A search for plane flights (from Michigan) start at just under $700 and up. Hotel costs for two or three days will cost a few hundred dollars.

  • $250-$300 Chart Topper tickets (two people)
  • $1,400 plane tickets (two people)
  • $250 hotel for two nights (Friday and Saturday)
  • $120 food for two people and three days
  • $2,020-2,070 Total

Readers – are these reasonable figures for attending a Go Diamond/Chart Topper event? Did you ever take the bus instead of the plane on such short notice (and such great distance)?

What memories do you have of Go Diamond Weekend? What do Student 15,000’s and above expect to hear at the Chart Topper event today through Sunday?

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17 Comments leave one →
  1. TruthSeeker permalink
    April 26, 2013 3:02 pm

    Just another way of extracting money from the pockets of their victims, and placing it in the pockets of the less than 5% that can earn from this travesty of a “business”.

  2. April 26, 2013 8:40 pm

    But they told me nobody makes money unless they help their downliners make money first. They told me majors/conference events are to learn how to build the bizz. How can they make money from these meetings, from people? How, really are you sure?

  3. jane permalink
    April 27, 2013 9:11 pm

    Why don’t you tell people the real facts. In all honesty, the only ones that gained financially from this weekend was the airline. Geez you people obviously have a grudge. Get a life and move on.

  4. April 27, 2013 9:35 pm

    Jane

    Real facts:That’s all I am trying to find out. What are they? Can you shed light on the real truth. It will be very beneficial as it’s very easy to get all confused. Thanx in advance.

  5. noteam permalink
    April 28, 2013 12:05 pm

    Jane,
    Do you honestly believe than Orrin Woodward & Crew did not make money from this weekend? (This is a great example of how brainwashed these people are). Thank you Jane for giving us another example of how blind some of these cult followers are.

  6. April 29, 2013 9:25 am

    Jane,

    I know how you feel, I used to feel the same way, but here’s what I found…

    1. There were people at this weekend’s function who bought their way into qualification. In other words, they made personal purchases in order to reach 15,000 PV just so they could “get around the leaders”. Who benefited monetarily from those purchases? I’m pretty sure it wasn’t the airlines.

    2. $125/ticket is a little steep, don’t you think? What does that cost have to cover? Rental of the auditorium (which I can guarantee you is much less than $125/person) and the fees for the speakers. Who benefited monetarily from the speaker fees? Also, once expenses are paid, where does the leftover money go?

    3. Was there a tool room at the function? I never went to a Team function where they didn’t have one! Who benefits the most from the tool room sales? Again, I don’t think it’s the airlines.

    4. Were there books and CDs promoted during the talks? My guess is that every single talk promoted one or more tools that you were encouraged to buy. Not only that, but some of the talks will come out on system, where you’ll pay for them again (and conversely you’ll get to enjoy the tool promotion again). Who benefits from the sale of the tools?

    5. Did a majority of the attendees stay at the same hotel? Of course they did, because if you try to save money by staying somewhere else, you are shunned. Do you realize that the more rooms the Team fills, the more freebies the upper echelon gets? That’s right, Orrin, Chris, Tim, etc. probably got free penthouse suites because of the number of rooms their entourage booked. Who did that benefit? Doesn’t it seem wrong that the people who can least afford it have to pay for their own lodging, and the ones with the most cash get theirs for free?

    6. The event was held on Florida. A vast majority of the people had to fly there from out of town, so you are right in this case that the airlines profited. What’s important to note is who did NOT have to pay airfare because they were already in Florida…Orrin, Chris, Tim…
    Again, who benefited? The ones with the most money, got away the cheapest.

    Jane, let your critical thinking start to work again. I know you’ll come to the right conclusion…things just don’t add up for the little guy in this organization.

  7. Joecool permalink
    April 29, 2013 11:55 am

    Try finding out how much it costs to run an event. For example, I contact the convention center in my hometown where an Amway function was held. It costs about $30 per person to hold such a conference. Thus uplines are making more than $75 per person. If you have 15,000 in attendance, that’s more than a million dollars in profit.

  8. April 30, 2013 8:49 am

    I wonder how much more money they made seeing as they got rid of the 4/year majors, and replaced it with 3 majors and this event.

  9. MemoryLame permalink
    April 30, 2013 11:59 am

    DG, they do that every other year or so, the price of the ticket (and/or something else) goes up every time they do. I wonder now if they don’t change the schedule because they have trouble booking their normal venues at times. More likely though it is so they can play this game:

    “Look, we have to have 4 majors because we have so much good content for you to buy to change your life!”
    …numbers run a little thin…or trouble with the venue…

    “Look, we want to save YOU money by only having 3 majors!”

    “Now look, we have to have 4 majors because we have so much good content for you to buy to change your life!”

    I will be impressed when they have one major every year, CDs are available via podcast for free or cheap, and any updates to packs you’ve already purchased are always free.

  10. Dave permalink
    June 7, 2013 3:34 pm

    The guy selling life to me said it would be my own business and I could claim 20percent of stuff like gas car ins and morgatge is this true

  11. June 8, 2013 8:17 am

    @Dave – Read what the IRS has to say about direct selling and taxes:

    http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Retail-Industry-ATG-Chapter-3:-Examination-Techniques-for-Specific-Industries-(Direct-Sellers)

    Also from MLM Attorney (former counsel to TEAM, who left to become a lawyer and advisor in the MLM space) posted some slides from the IRS about taxes for direct sellers:

    Also

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2013/01/25/shhh-home-office-and-other-irs-audit-trigger-secrets/

    You really have to be engaged in business activities in order to deduct your expenses. Otherwise, you’re just engaging in a hobby.

  12. June 8, 2013 10:00 am

    @Dave
    Before committing to TEAM/LIFE as with anything these days do not put your signature on anything before you read the terms and conditions. A copy is posted on this site at the top RHS, thus, Policies and Procedures.

    Study specifically how the relationship between LIFE and it’s members is established and defined in this legal document. Also what powers does LIFE grant itself over this relationship. Is it reciprocal, judicious, consistent with your guaranteed First Amendment right to free speech, etc. Don’t fail to look for the part that a court of law can in this relationship setup legally recognize you as business owner (or none thereof, at which, then what are you?)

    Needless to say this is a necessary part of due diligence. I look forward to you sharing with us your findings. Happy hunting!

  13. Melanie Morgan permalink
    June 8, 2013 1:42 pm

    Dave-

    I am going to be blunt, you are being mislead and decieved, you do not own anything.

    Check out what Amthrax & Exambot already pointed out for you, you will find your answers there. The P & P will clearly show who owns your custimers and business.

    What a disgrace and total farce, these guys are still misleading others to get them to sign on the dotted line, even after they but it in black and white but no surprise that is what they have always done abnd what scammers do.

    Good luck, Dave! If you have signed the dotted line and it were me…I would get my money back just for being muslead! How do you ever trust that?

  14. Freedomhaha permalink
    June 9, 2013 8:20 am

    Dave- NO. Simple as that.

  15. noteam permalink
    June 9, 2013 9:41 am

    Dave – a few questions to ask your friend…

    Ask him why Orrin was kicked out of Amway/Quixtar and then changed the story to make it sound like he was the hero. If he was the hero, then why did he lose his court battle and have to pay a reported $25 million between Orrin, Chris & Tim?

    Why did Orrin lie to everyone and say he was sacrificing when we all switched over to MonaVie, yet according to the Salt Lake City newspaper, Orrin received $3 million for brining us all to MonaVie? And why was he reportedly earning several million dollars in tool bonuses during the 6-month inactivity while others had their income drop by up to 80% or more?

    Why did they hide the fact that Huber & Darkangelo declared bankruptcy recently while still speaking on stage about the great lifestyle?

    Why have over 20 major leaders, who all used to work directly with Orrin, left the organization and want nothing to do with Orrin?

    Why was Orrin’s leadership ‘guru’ status revoked for allegedly having almost 2,000 votes come from only 3 different IP addresses (Orrin, Chris, Tim?)?

    Why did Orrin have over 20,000 people at major functions 4 years ago, and now only gets under 10,000? Where have all these people found out?

    Why do the Policies & Proceedures say that they can take your business away from you at their discretion?

    Why is there not a single new Policy Council member in the last 5 years that was not involved with Orrin in Amway/Quixtar? With all this ‘growth, leadership & training’ surely they could produce one new Policy Council from start to finish in 5 years????? Out of 10,000 people???? Not one???? Not good odds.

  16. Freedomhaha permalink
    June 10, 2013 4:56 am

    Amthrax/Everyone- “Why have over 20 major leaders, who all used to work directly with Orrin, left the organization and want nothing to do with Orrin?”

    I think it would be helpful to make a separate post, or link with a list of all the big time leaders that have left the business. A huge push for me to leave was when I would hear leaders referenced on a CD that were no longer around. I thought “Why would they ever leave a perfect business??” How foolish of me.

  17. June 10, 2013 5:13 am

    There’s a couple of posts in which ex-TEAM leaders are discussed:

    Legacy Group (Haugens, Crawfords, etc.)
    https://amthrax.wordpress.com/2009/03/31/leaving-team/

    Abraham, Freeze, etc.
    https://amthrax.wordpress.com/2011/05/04/ex-team-would-you-have-stayed-in/

    Dickies
    https://amthrax.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/mlm-punisher-on-the-cost-of-living-intentionally-for-excellence/

    A post with a full list would be useful. List them in the comments below (I know it’s off topic), and I’ll collect in a post. Put their name and their highest rank in TEAM/MonaVie/Amway.

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