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January 9, 2016

The schism between those that follow Tim Marks and those that pledge allegiance to Orrin Woodward and Chris Brady’s LIFE business continues with more revisionist history from the former camp. In my previous article, I mentioned that several new ex-LIFE members have been publicly tweeting that they are no longer part of the LIFE business. They are doing this to fulfill a requirement in the LIFE Policies and Procedures document (

In his tweet, Chris Mattis announced he is no longer affiliated with Life Leadership:

I also metioned in my blog post that “some members also have personal leadership websites that they published to in the past. What will become of them? Will references to LIFE disappear? Will the sites be deleted? Only time will tell.”

I refer readers to this blog post by Mattis, titled Replacement Driven Leadership. The article talks about how the genius of Tim Marks is his ability to have others replace him. What’s funny is that if one looks at the original version of the article, one sees that Mattis originally was talking about Orrin Woodward and Chris Brady in addition to Tim Marks. Check out these before and after screenshots. Click on images below to see them bigger.

Replacement Driven Leadership #1

In this second screenshot from the article, Mattis removes two references to Woodward and Brady, including a shout-out to Orrin’s book Resolved.

Replacement Driven Leadership #2

Finally, in this third before and after screenshot, Mattis omits the line referring readers to Woodward and Brady’s book Launching a Leadership Revolution, which he called “the best manual written on Replacement Driven Leadership.”

Replacement Driven Leadership #3

There are more instances of such revisionist history on his blog, archives of which you can find on the Wayback Machine on Internet Archive. Entire blog posts have been removed, including ones titled “Orrin Woodward asks the Right Questions?,” “Orrin Woodward & Chris Brady’s MFC: Mental Fitness Challenge,” and “Home Business Radio Network’s Leadership Factory.”

You can still watch the Home Business Radio’s interview between Orrin Woodward and Chris Mattis here:

Want to place bets on how quickly this video will be taken down? Revisionist history goes both ways, and you can be sure that LIFE will continue to scrub mentions of those who left to follow Marks from its business.

Pointing out these examples holds those who try to revise history to suit their needs accountable for their past beliefs and actions. For instance, those in TEAM/LIFE once were strong proponents of MonaVie (which has pretty much disappeared). Before that, they hawked Amway. These two other businesses were promoted as the best businesses in the world to make lots of money. What happened? Would a new prospect join LIFE if he or she knew of their past history?

I suspect that whatever new products that Tim Marks and his followers promote, there will be no mention of their past with TEAM, LIFE, MonaVie, or Amway.

11 Comments leave one →
  1. Rascal Teamster permalink
    January 9, 2016 4:00 pm


    This may be one of the best threads you’ve ever posted. If this doesn’t shine a spot light on their character, or at least Mattis’, I don’t know what could.

    Chris Mattis, are you kidding me? What kind of a lying slime ball are you? Is this true? Did you really do this?

    “Mattis omits the line referring readers to Woodward and Brady’s book Launching a Leadership Revolution, which he called “the best manual written on Replacement Driven Leadership.”

    Did you really say that about the guys you walked away from and alter the article to say that only about the guy you left with?

    Obviously this is a rhetorical question, as we know you did it. I feel pretty safe to say that, you sir, are a turd, and I can’t believe I ever trusted you.

    Funny thing about questioning the character of these clowns. Every time you do, they prove you right.

    Moral Compass…….Bahahahahaha

    Bravo Amthrax….nice article.

  2. January 9, 2016 6:42 pm

    Man, there’s some real hero worship near the beginning of that video. I had forgotten what it was like constantly having that stuff pumped through my ears.

    A million bucks to anyone who can get all the way through it! And I’ll pay up as soon as they reach a million.

  3. January 9, 2016 6:47 pm

    On the Feb 12 screenshot he forgot to change a “their” to “his”.


  4. January 9, 2016 7:15 pm

    Mattjer22, you won’t be paying me a dime. I made it through the first guy, who must be some failed phone card MLMr, but the dulcet tones of Orrin’s voice spewing out Biblical references and praising Mattis was just too much.

    It’s so filthy and disingenuous, I’m ashamed I was ever a part of it.

  5. Brent Hansen permalink
    January 10, 2016 12:11 pm

    Boy how I love to see discord and malcontent among the charlatans. Squabbling over money no doubt. I would love to know what happened.

  6. freedomhaha permalink
    January 11, 2016 5:02 am

    Excellent work that will change the lives of many that don’t even know it by preventing them from ever joining this mess. Can’t wait to see freedom for others that are shown the light in this situation from the cracks at the top.

    I will be very interested if they post crowd shots from the next “major”.

  7. Truly Free from Life permalink
    January 11, 2016 6:39 pm

    Well folks, it looks like Tim Marks has revised his blog as well. Only those going with him are listed in the links now and all LIFE, Orrin, etc articles are gone. Anyone else get the “1984” history rewrite feel from this?

  8. Blugill permalink
    April 7, 2016 1:43 pm

    Ok, I’ve got THREE BonveraBots going to this big convention in Kansas City this weekend (April 8-10 I think) and they keep saying that they are adding affiliate stores to their site (That’s going to take down Amazon, I hear that one daily! Blech!)
    So how do they get paid for shopping at an affiliate store?
    Anyone know?

  9. Charles Dziki permalink
    December 15, 2018 6:13 pm

    I’m Dan Hawkins brother in law, I wanna talk…

  10. Charles Dziki permalink
    December 15, 2018 6:16 pm

    I’m Dan Hawkins brother in law, I wanna talk…

  11. Charles Dziki permalink
    January 6, 2019 7:28 pm

    Married to Dan Hawkins older sister, she is now divorcing me, lots of questions, lots of pain…

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