Dr. Dean Edell Calls MonaVie Worthless
Yesterday1, Dr. Dean Edell slammed MonaVie on his radio show, calling it worthless and a fad. Here are some choice quotes the good doctor talking to a caller named Danielle, which comes in at the 54-minute mark.
This is worthless. They are breaking the law.
This in response to Danielle’s would-be sponsor, who tells her that MonaVie is a miracle drink that cures from A to Z.
This is simply acai. $34 a bottle. There is no miracle in a bottle here. This is just a fad.
For all the celebrities, athletes, etc. whom MonaVie pays and carts out to promote the juice, I show you someone who has no financial incentive to slam or praise the product calling it worthless.
Berries are very healthy, don’t get me wrong. I would encourage you all to drink berry juices.
Drink berry juice, but spending $34/bottle is ridiculous.
Have your friend call me…. have her tell me what things that this thing cures. I’ll grind her up in very little pieces….
Anyone have Brig Hart’s number? Or Orrin Woodward? How bout we go to the top and get Dr. Dean Edell on the horn with Dallin Larsen himself?
What’s this you say? Dallin himself just calls it a juice while winking his eye? That he’s not responsible for what his distributors say because it’s impossible to rein them in? Dallin… the word you’re looking for is called RESPONSIBILITY.
Who can afford this in this day and age? Okay if it was positive. If there’s data? That this is helpful or better than the berries you can buy in the grocery store, which are a heck of a lot cheaper and better tasting as far as I’m concerned.
It would be a lot cheaper and healthier in my opinion, to go to the grocery store and make your own fruit smoothies and juice concoctions than to buy MonaVie at $34/bottle.
In terms of making money, Danielle. I got to tell you something. There are no rules or laws to warn you and give you the numbers you want to know, which is how many people actually make money in these multi-level marketing deals. And the government is trying to pass such rules and laws. The truth of the matter is, that almost everybody loses money. The people at the very very top, they make money, because they’ve got everybody else working for them.
How many “new” Diamonds have there been in MonaVie who were previously big pins from other MLMs? Robert Dean (Noni). TV Wilson and Steve Branch (YTB). Randy Schroeder (Agel). Orrin Woodward (Amway/Quixtar). Brig Hart (Amway). Need I go on?
These people are constantly being carted out on stage reaching higher and higher levels. You? Everyone else? Still at the bottom. Read the MonaVie Income Disclosure Statement and do the math. Dr. Dean Edell is right; most people don’t earn any money at all.
Enjoy listening to Dr. Dean Edell. If the link above is broken, do a search for Dr. Dean Edell, August 27, 2009 to find another version of his MP3 podcast.
1 It’s possible that the August 27, 2009 broadcast was a re-broadcast of a previous Dr. Dean Edell taping.
AMTHRAX 
Very good. Bravo, Dr. Edell!
Do you know if this was a rebroadcast? He had made similar comments quite some time ago, and I thought the person mentioned was Danielle…but I could never find the working podcast/mp3 link.
I spoke with several people personally who actually heard the broadcast as it aired. Can’t remember how long ago that was, perhaps 6 months or so.
Thank you!! 😎
If an Amway diamond stood on stage and told me that Amway was the greatest opportunity, and sold me materials on how to build Amway, and then defected to another MLM, I would drop them like a bad habit.
It’s quite possible that it was a rebroadcast. I just heard about it today in fact.
I’m very happy people are speaking out on this scam. Families around here are being sucked into this lies and better health and it sickens me.
Please check out our website and spread the word around! BEWARE!
Amthrax,
I appreciate your humor/sarcastic energy and enjoy what you have put together here. Its interesting. I’m not affiliated with Am or Orrin but I am curious to know why you care so much what he is doing? This is the United States of America. If I want to sell a paper clip for $1,000 and someone wants to buy it, its possible here. I would like to know why you have such anger and sarcasm towards someone who is leveraging one of Americas greatest strengths… free enterprise. Why is making $3,000,000 so bad. How is that different than Starbucks making 300 million overcharging on an espresso shot or a $5 for a Mocha. (I love coffee & Starbucks, just an example) Or when a girl buys a $380 pair True Religion jeans…that is perfectly fine. You are talented and articulate. I dont know how much you earned in 2009…30k, 300k, or 3 mil..but what ever you earned as long as it met your needs and the lifestyle you want…its fine. Why do you care what other people earn so much???
Salud! God Bless, & Stay Hungry!!
If someone wants to sell a paperclip for $1000, that person is trying to rip other people off.
that didnt really answer the question..(the paper clip was just an expample) but no worries you dont have to. I think I got my answer…Maybe your a save the world type Ghandi figure. Your not really a money maker business producer type. Thats cool..and your opinion and perspetive is apreciated. Take care. God Bless and continue sharing the your word to the world to avoid business and profits.
If by your definition free enterprise means someone can rip people off, it also means that he can be criticized for doing so.
Now let me ask some questions. If you’re not affiliated with Am nor Orrin, what’s your reason for posting here? How did you come across this blog in the first place and what’s your interest for commenting?
Amthrax,
Well, by free enterprise, I mean the freedom to create a business and profit. And yes of course anyone can give their opinion, obviously, that is a given. If you read my post clearly that was not the question I was asking.
Im not affiliated with them, the reason for my post is because I am genuinely curious as to how folks like yourself get your feelings hurt and bitter to the point where you make an entire agenda against a company. Its quite fascinating, I have had bad experiences at restaurants and retail stores etc, but it has never gotten to the point where I create an entire movement around it..that is interesting and I would like to know why your feelings are so hurt..? Its not personal, its just business like anything else…No one is getting mad a Carrie Underwood for selling CDs, why cant people sell CDs whats so bad about that, I dont get it!?
I came across this site because I like the Monavie Energy drink, I was researching info on the product and business..& this site came up on the search results. Im open minded to all opinions so I browsed through the site to take in your perspective. And while very humors, sarcastic and entertaining, (thanks for that) its not really substantial in regards to making these companies feel bad for being in business or selling CDs.
I don’t normally comment, but in this case I decided to comment because you seem like the type of person that is thorough, does his/her homework & is open to different (truthful) perspectives. From the way you expressed yourself I felt I would get as candid response. (I was a bit disappointed because you didn’t really address any of my questions directly, but that’s fine too no big deal)
Thats all…Its interesting what you have going on here, and I was just curious to know what was the traumatic experience that you had with 2 great companies (every great company has its flaws Microsoft/Apple/Starbucks/Game STop you name it) that would cause you to create an agenda revolved around gossiping and talking bad about them. Not to mention insulting millionaires for earning big money and reaching the top of American incomes.
If you can do better, than you should “do it”…if you want to..(If you dont want to then that is fine too.)
Personally I like this blog as one of the better ones where everyone on it pretty much talks straight about the self serving nonsense and hype that seems to go along with the MLM industry. The sarcasm directed toward the leadership in the various companies makes it fun, nothing wrong with getting into an MLM if you are truly educated as to how they really work and understand the statical odds going are against making a significant income at it, some do, most don’t.
I guess the real issue where it draws the line is when people are so hyped up by their uplines they will spend tons of money they don’t really have for products, pep rallies tickets and sales tools of very arguable benefit and value just because a very smooth pitch man on stage sells them on the idea they cannot be successful without it. Kinda like the $1000 paperclip scenario or cold calling someone and selling him on $1,000,000 stock deal, he don’t know you or the company you are pitching and you don’t know him, and you close the sale anyway, either example is one real hard core selling.
Please read the my About page (at the top of my blog) and How I Succeeded By Failing to know why I’m writing this blog.
Wow…..what a bunch of losers criticizing a great opportunity, and incredible products. The problem is not Monavie’s product or network marketing business model, it’s the people who misrepresent it. If I told you that you would make $1000 a week and cure your asthma/cancer/hives/crohn’s with Monavie, and then you only made $300 and your health was improved or you slept better/had more energy, you might think you were scammed. That’s why Monavie PROHIBITS its distributors from making promises like those. The only two things Monavie needs to improve upon is getting rid of the scam artists within this great company, and SUING the people who slander Monavie, like those on this blog. Quit blaming others for your own failures. I got an idea……How about listen to the other doctors who are singing Monavie’s praises. There are plenty more of doctors and nutritionists who have no financial gain by recommending Monavie products, but continue to do so.
I would venture to say that the vast majority of people who attempt to start ANY business will fail, because they are unprepared and do not have the proper mindset. MLM is not easy, but it is FAIR. If you don’t have the perseverance or heart to make it work, stay at your job, and continue making your boss/owner rich. But don’t blame Network Marketing for YOUR failure. There’s the motive for the criticism.
This blog is just more people trying to benefit from bringing down a giant. What a bunch of damn hypocrites. Have fun at work……
http://www.andybranka.com/doctorsandscientists.htm
Hello Paul,
Totally agree, however at the Mona Vie corporate level is a good place to start with really enforcing the P&P everyone is supposed to follow, like not making crazy income or health claims, nonsense over priced pep rallies and my pet favorite is heavy hitters selling Mona Vie thru a third party on E-bay for $90 a case with free shipping thus undercutting the auto ship by $57. Then perhaps those of us on the blogs just might believe them and choose not to exercise or right to free speech.
burned out on MV…please go get a 9-5. you are clearly not cut out for the world of business. God bless you and best to you.
@Paul
That link shows a bunch of doctors that support ACAI BERRIES as a “VERY HEALTHY” fruit. Nothing mentioning that you should pay for overpriced fruit blend made from CONCENTRATES! by MonaVie.
The only ones mentioning MonaVie also mention they are directly (Near the very top) of the MonaVie payroll.
See, the thing is – people who are ignorant enough to believe they can climb up the tree of a bad business model/concept (MLM) are too ignorant to realize what a scam it is even when more creditable and intelligent people show it right in front of their face.
I for one have made much more then 99% of ANYONE who have joined MonaVie just by putting a banner on my website that inform people why NOT to get involve with MonaVie.
Also, It’s been shown the same people who join MonaVie also believe in religion, 2012, Y2K, etc ,etc.
I don’t care what kind of comeback any of you believers think you got – I can prove ANYTHING you say regarding MonaVie wrong with hard evidence instead of manipulating real data to better portrait myself (I.E. highly advertising Acai Berries in the drink which, yes, many doctor will stand by, but not mentioning that MonaVie blends are about 900 to 1500% over price compared to BETTER blends at any local supermarket).
MonaVie Believers – Bite me!
Thank you Marco for the blessing, I do both very successfully just not in the MLM world.
It’s interesting that I’ m even taking time away from my business to drop a line in this (or any) type of website. I’ve never met a sore winner in MLM, but interestingly enough most losers IN ANY CATEGORY WHERE HUMANS TAKE PART are sore losers. And it’s always true that humans will go through great lenghts to protect their ego (the weak, inferior, reactive, insecure, coward and lower self), and lots of times that means influencing others into this realm to convince them of your views because if you don’t, then they’ll prove your ego (the weak, inferior, reactive, insecure, coward and lower self) wrong. Now for me to make a numerically quantifiable statement I must withold opinion and ask you to research the facts: What is the school drop out rate? and college? How many athletes don’t make it to pro? How many sports are being called a scam today? What is the failure rate in our society? What is the failure rate in traditional business? What is the failure rate in ALL business? And, among the ones that don’t fail in the first 5 yrs, what is the failure rate on those? How many shady companies emerge everyday? How many good ones? How many MLM companies since AVON (Est. 1886) made over $100Million last yr? How many companies TODAY are going from the traditional business model to MLM? Why (in business terms)? How many are owned by RICHARD BRANSON, DONALD TRUMP, WARREN BUFFET? Now tell me, how many MILLIONAIRES has MLM created (counting only the distributor base)? Now to AMTHRAX, if you nor anyone, didn’t know these facts before launching your rampage campaign based on absolutely nothing else than preying and benefiting on others frustrations, failures and fears, you have done a disservice to your country, your people, and only to glorify your ego (the weak, inferior, reactive, insecure, coward and lower self), and to give others permission to do the same. You can consider yourselves pioneers in the slowing down the progress of human kind. I don’t know how you can live with yourselves. May God help you. BEWARE OF DOING ANY REAL RESEARCH ON THE ANSWERS TO ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS, FOR IT MAY SHATTER YOUR WHOLE EGO DRIVEN REALITY….
Joan – I draw it to your lack of attention that Monavie’s 2009 Global IDS confirms that 99.64% of the sales force are losing money.
Furthermore, it’s pretty hard to compete in an organization such as Monavie whereby the compensation plan is heavily geared to paying those ranked the highest – a group of 377 who make up 0.053% of the entire sales force received nearly 40% of the total commisions paid.
So with the loss rates amongst virtually the entire sales force and a grossly unfair compensation plan which is clearly enriching only a very few, perhaps it’d be more accurate to say the company and the system are failing rather than the average distributor?
And perhaps it’s a far more plausable explanation for MLM companies to convince the average person for unwittingly signing up for a venture whereby the losses are almost guaranteed?
Furthermore, no sporting institute will claim that becoming a professional sportsman is possible for anyone to achieve and encourage people who clearly don’t have the talent to invest their time and hard earned money despite this
However, Monavie claim that success is possible for anyone to achieve despite the fact that success in terms of breaking even appears to be a goal most distributors are unable to achieve.
We don’t need God’s help to stop us from investing a product based pyramid scheme such as Monavie – all it takes is some good old fashioned logic and a bit of healthy skepticism.
You sound like a rather disturbed individual quite frankly.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that Mona Vie isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be. Nobody who is selling it, or using it, has ever made a bad decision about doing either. They just made the best decision they could at the time with the information they had at the time of their decision. Mona Vie is just like all the other fruit juices, just a very over priced one. I’ve learned to do my homework and listen to all sides of an argument before making an intelligent decision. I looked into Mona Vie, and had someone try really hard to recruit me into doing their business. I don’t think anyone actually buys it retail, or sells it retail, which is why they’ll never get rich. Besides, who in their right mind would pay retail for it anyway, especially when you can go to the store & buy everything you need and make your own Mona Vie for a whole lot less money! If Mona Vie was so great, then why isn’t it listed in the 2007 Physician’s Desk Reference in the Herbal & Over The Counter Supplement section like Zavita is? It’s an easy thing to answer and it’s because there isn’t any real scientific evidence to back up Mona Vie like there is Zavita. Yes, I am a distributor of Zavita and there is 20 plus years of independent research on the Cat’s Claw; Catuaba; Cha de bugre; Chuchuhuasi; Iporuru; Samambaia; and Tayuya. In fact, if you go to http://pubmed.gov and enter each plant into their search engine like my sister-in-law did, she works at Hershey Medical Center in the radiology department, you will discover zero negative side affects, unlike what I’ve found with Mona Vie. I have my sister-in-law almost an ounce about 3 in the afternoon. She did her research and was impressed with what she saw over 20 years. I didn’t tell her what it would do so I wouldn’t bias her one way or another. She told me later that she went home and had energy she normally never has and then got the best night of sleep she’d had in a very long time! I didn’t chase, or beg her, to buy a bottle. The next day she sent me a text wanting to buy a whole bottle so I sold her one. I didn’t tell her that it was going to improve her libido or anything else. She had restless leg syndrome and improved to the point where it was gone. With Mona Vie, you have to tell them what to expect and whatever they are told to expect, it will happen to them. It’s called the Hawthorn Affect. It’s like telling people that driving 55 mph instead of 65 mph, will save gas, oh, and coincidentally, it saved lives because accidents happened at slower speeds. Had people been told the reason for lowering the speed limit was to save lives, would they have been more aware of how they were driving and then realized they saved money on their fuel bill? It’s also a lot like the Commonwealth of Virginia banning motorcycles from using the HOV (High Occupancy Vehicle) lanes during rush hour. They did a study like they were required by the Federal Government as the road was constructed with Federal tax dollars. They didn’t bother to allow people riding motorcycles to participate in the study by allowing them to use the HOV lanes during rush hour. No motorcycles and no accidents so the conclusion they came to was that to avoid motorcycle accidents, just eliminate motorcyclists from the HOV lanes. The study was biased against motorcycles and someone pointed that out so they were required to do another study. This time they had to allow motorcyclists on the HOV lanes during HOV hours. Lo and behold, there were not any motorcycle accidents at all! Which was not what they expected. Statistics lie, and liars use statistic. When enough people, through independent research and without a vested interested in the product being studied, come to the same conclusion about a product, those that believe otherwise, are only fooling themselves about a worthless product. Yes, if you want to know more about Zavita, just go to http://www.FirstFitness.com/behealthyagain which is a 21 year old company that makes their products in FDA inspected facilities as I’ve seen one of them. They don’t make the claims that Mona Vie does about their fruit juice because they have unbiased scientific evidence to back them up. Based on the number of grammar errors, which includes spelling and the wrong words, I doubt that those people defending Mona Vie are able to think for themselves. Nobody really wants to admit they made a mistake about something. And by the way, my wife is a RN, CDN (Certified Dialysis Nurse) and she has degenerative joint disease in her left hip and is on her feet all day. The doctors said to either do pain medications that make you sleepy, or, do physical therapy which isn’t always convenient. Instead, I give her 2 1/2 ounces of Zavita and she has pain relief all day long. And, because it is listed in the PDR by name, our doctor wrote a script for it so we can be reimbursed from flexible spending. Can that be done with any other fruit juice, like Mona Vie? Not at all, and the reason being is that Zavita isn’t a fruit juice but rather extracts from the bark, the leaves, and roots of the seven aforementioned plants. They use the acai berry and stevia for flavoring and nothing more. The product was also tested and had a higher ORAC score than anything on the market.
I have a famous cousin, who writes gospel music, and she was skeptical as well. I gave her a miniature bottle last year as well as her husband. The bottle had less than 2 ounces in it. She said that both her and her husband loved it so much, and they felt much better than doing Sea Silver, she wanted to get more of it. From what I’ve seen and understand, I haven’t seen anyone say they’ve had people chasing them to get more Mona Vie. And for what it’s worth, I tried it once and couldn’t swallow all of it so I don’t understand how people swallow 4 ounces a day. It only takes one ounce of Zavita to benefit compared to 4 ounces of Mona Vie, which doesn’t have any benefits other than your wallet getting smaller. A bottle lasts 25 days compared to 6 days so it’s a lot less expensive. My wife and I go through 6 bottles a month because I drink just 2 ounces because I have psoriatic arthritis in my feet and they would burn if I didn’t do the 2 ounces in the morning. There are 125 document reasons for drinking Zavita everyday. Made to pharmaceutical grade standard by a company that has leadership with integrity, which is more than anyone can say about Mona Vie. So, I can understand why Dr. Dean Edell calls Mona Vie worthless because it is, especially at the price people pay for it. If bought retail for $44 and you drink 4 ounces a day, it costs you $8 a day, whereas Zavita is only $2 an ounce or a day if you only drink one ounce a day. And the other thing is, if you are involved in the comment, and you don’t have to buy a bunch to get the best price because you always get it at whatever your discount level is, even if you only buy one bottle at a time.
Garth Jernigan – so what you propose is that victims of MLM fraud look to yet another MLM company who have yet another miracle elixir (it’s amazing how these MLM companies get the latest and greatest in secret formulas and ingredients from the most exotic places!) with distributors who use entirely unfounded and illegal medical claims to promote the product (I can’t help but notice the lack of information available which confirms Zavita is approved by the FDA for treating and mitigating the symptoms of conditions such as restless leg syndrome and arthritis) and yet another opportunity to make an income far in excess of traditional employment??!!
The predictability of these MLM companies is astounding and the winning formula doesn’t change from one company to the next –
(grossly over-priced) magic potions and lotions (MLM companies have cures for every disease imaginable and can be sold by even the uneducated or unqualified!), the promise of an income opportunity far in excess of any other occupation (albeit for only a very few who joined first!), rewards of million dollar bonuses/houses/other prizes if you achieve virtually unobtainable levels (there’s no one more gullible than a person blinded by greed!), financial/time freedom (this is not a get rich quick scheme – it’s a 3 to 5 year maximize your losses plan!), helping people achieve their goals (a justification for scamming those nearest and dearest in the hope of becoming rich yourself!), leverage off the efforts of others (just as those in the upline are milking money from you!), money being promoted as the key to all happiness, passive/residual income (which can’t even be possible if the anti-pyramiding rules are being abided by!), focus on the future earning potential and goals (instead of the current and ongoing losses!), duplicate, duplicate, duplicate…blah, blah, blah.
Shame on anyone for falling for such garbage a second time around – and shame on you Garth for thinking you’re going to capitalise on the ignorance of people who’ve previously fallen victim to such scams using the same old bull$hit all over again.
As a MonaVie distributor myself, I find the comments above interesting and illuminating. It is true, I think, that most distributors don’t make money with the product, and this is certainly true in my case. The ones that do are not scam artists, but rather people with a different approach toward talking to people. My sponsor, for example, is a friend of mine for more than 20 years who is extremely gregarious and talkative with people, and as a result she is making more than $50k per year at MonaVie. Her sponsors, a former airline stewardess and a former water-skier (not previously involved with MLM), are at the top ranks of the company and are multi-millionaires.
By contrast, I have a tough time talking to people about MonaVie whether they be friends, family members, or strangers, with the predictable result that I make very little money at it. Even so, my income level is shared by only about 8,000 other people worldwide (according to the Income Disclosure Statement), which suggests to me that if I can overcome my psychological hangups about sharing the product with people, I will eventually make money at the business. There is no physical reason I can see that would prevent me from making as much as my friend, and if I can make as much as her, I can make more than her as well. Like any other business venture, your success is determined more by psychology than by external factors.
Regarding the “Hawthorn Effect,” my experience is that I had no effects that I was told to expect; I was told, for instance, that I might lose weight, that I might have some digestive side-effects, that I’d have more energy, and that I might sleep better. None of these things occurred (save for having more energy, but only because I also drink MonaVie’s energy drink, Emv). Instead, I stopped having sinus headaches, my immune system settled down and stopped attacking one of my eyeballs, and my heart rhythm became more regular. Overall, I feel better, and when I stop drinking the juice, I start feeling worse. Other people experience different things, such as one person who stopped drinking it because it was making her digestive tract a little too active!
It’s also worth considering that MonaVie has the only patented process for preserving the potency of the acai berry once it’s harvested, so in my opinion it’s a better juice than the ones you find in the grocery stores. Also, it’s not ONLY acai that’s in the juice, but also 18 other fruits that you don’t find in other products. Are they all worthless, too?
Based upon my own experience with MonaVie as a product and where I sense it can take me as a business, I’m in it for the long haul. If all I get out of it ultimately is an improved ability to talk to people and a healthy dose of self-confidence, that would arguably be worth it for me!
I don’t know what resources you have used to call Mona-Vie worthless but I can say that I have used Mona-Vie for over a year now and the product is the ONLY product (perscription, non-perscription or herbal) that has EVER made any difference in my arthritis, fibromyalgia, narcalepsy, blood pressure and depression. I basically don’t need any perscriptions anymore because Mona-Vie takes care of it all. Now, as a business, I have’t made much money either but that isn’t the point for me. I like helping people relieve their pain.
Julie Lowman states “I don’t know what resources you have used to call Mona-Vie worthless but I can say that I have used Mona-Vie for over a year now and the product is the ONLY product (perscription, non-perscription or herbal) that has EVER made any difference in my arthritis, fibromyalgia, narcalepsy, blood pressure and depression. I basically don’t need any perscriptions anymore because Mona-Vie takes care of it all.”
What the?!
As a Monavie distributor, you obliged to conduct yourself in accordance with company Policies and Procedures which you agreed to when you chose to become a representative of the company and which states:
2.1.6.I will be truthful in my representation of MonaVie Products and make no claims regarding the health benefits of MonaVie Products that violate the law.
2.1.15.I will abide by all of MonaVie’s Policies and Procedures.
2.3.8.Unethical Activity. You agree to be ethical and professional at all times when conducting your MonaVie Distributorship…Examples of unethical activities include, but are not limited to the following, some of which are further described in these P&Ps:
2.3.8.1.Making unapproved claims about the Product;
In accordance with company policy and the LAW, you are not allowed to use terms or phrases which suggest Monavie treats, cures or mitigates the symptoms of any disease or condition.
monavieuniversity.zaah.net/?s=fruit+juice+products
monaviemediacenter.com/blogs/5-tips-every-monavie-distributor-needs-to-know-about-the-new-ftc-guidelines/
The unlawful statements you made are entirely unsupported and unfounded – NO studies have ever been undertaken to support such claims and no studies have ever been undertake to show that there are any benefits associated with drinking this highly processed fruit juice. Period.
Furthermore, there’s certainly NOTHING contained within the juice to account for the bogus health claims you just made so I certainly don’t know wtf you’ve been reading – Monavie Original and Active offer a daily value of 2% vitamin C, 2% iron and 1% carbohydrates and Pulse offers 3% carbohydrates, 2% fat, 1% fibre, 4% vitamin A and 2% iron. Hardly what anyone would consider nutritious!
http://www.blackdiamonduniversity.com/training-home.asp
With your statements that the product can cure, treat or mitigate the symptoms of conditions such as arthritis, fibromyalgia, narcolepsy, blood pressure and depression, you have clearly breached each of the above sections of Monavie’s Policies and Procedures, have made unlawful claims concerning the product and thus have also conducted yourself in an unprofessional and unethical manner as a direct result of same.
Julie Low-Life further states “Now, as a business, I have’t made much money either but that isn’t the point for me.”
Of course you haven’t, fool and nor will you – you’re at the bottom of the pyramid scurrying for scraps.
This loathsome scammer finally states “I like helping people relieve their pain.”
It’s a shame ignorant distributors such as Julie haven’t the capacity to see the pain they could potentially inflict with their immoral and illegal behaviour – these are people’s lives you are dealing with. Imagine the potential consequences of someone with depression stopping their medication!
Disgraceful.
This just shows ignorance, NOBODY ever said that this drink cures anything!! If they did they are lying. With that said, the drink supply’s your body with the tools to heal itself. There are 19 fruits from around the world in it. You could never get the healing potency of all these fruits ANYWHERE ELSE! They have different mixtures with different 19 fruits ( always with acai) in them, depending on what ailment you want your body to heal the most!
I drink the Active which also has liquid Glucosamine in it, for joint and muscular support. It has help me tremendously! After 1 week of drinking 4 oz’s a da, I was able to get off the pain killer drugs I had been taking on and off( more on then off) for 15 years and finally after nearly 5 years, get a full nights sleep!!!!!!!
The more I read negative about Mon*A*Vie the more I read stupidity!!!!!!!!
Jim Phillips states “This just shows ignorance, NOBODY ever said that this drink cures anything!! If they did they are lying.”
In the same post, Jim by his own admission LIES about the purported health benefits of Monavie by claiming “After 1 week of drinking 4 oz’s a da, I was able to get off the pain killer drugs I had been taking on and off( more on then off) for 15 years and finally after nearly 5 years, get a full nights sleep!!!!!!!”
If you weren’t so ignorant yourself, you’d see the stupidity of the above statements you just made in which you claimed Monavie can treat, cure and mitigate the symptoms of a condition requiring pain medication for 15 years and assist with sleep.
Your ignorance is further highlighted by the fact that you’re attributing all of this to a highly, processed FRUIT JUICE preserved with sodium benzoate (which is implicated as being a carcinogen when combined with vitamin C) AND which offers a nutritional value of only 2% vitamin C, 2% iron and 1% carbohydrates of your body’s daily requirements.
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Hey Jim – ever thought of picking up a fresh piece of fruit, surely that’d cure what ails you! Flaming fool!
It should be illegal for companies to exploit the stupidity of distributors such as Jim – let alone operate a pyramid scam under the guise of selling fruit juice.
Jim Phillips,
I’m very impressed by your testimony about how fruit juice succeeded where medical science failed, and cured you of your chronic pain. With such miracles, I’m amazed that NOBODY ever says it cures anything and you are the first to discover this. Have you contacted any news outlets to report on this amazing discovery? So do you think the secret is in not eating the fruits themselves but in processing them together in minuscule amounts and throwing in some sodium benzoate?
This is probably the greatest health news I’ve heard since the time I found out that tap water and faith can heal every known aliment on earth:
http://www.peterpopoffministries.com/testimonial-heal.php
Imagine mixing MV with Peter Popoff’s miracle holy water! We’ll all be living disease free forever.
This comment is for Anonymous Aussie with regards to him thinking that Zavita isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be. Had he actually went to the web site, he could have seen the actual page from the 2007 Physician’s Desk Reference for the Other The Counter & Herbal Supplement Section. It is listed by name, not by ingredients. The other thing is, that if anyone would like a third party source that isn’t biased, try putting each of the ingredients from Zavita into http://www.pubmed.gov and see how much research there is on each individual ingredient, with regards to clinical studies, lab studies and yes, studies on humans as well as ethnomedical reports. The Amazon medicine men have been using this formula for centuries, and it’s based on plants at their disposal. Don’t tell the woman that beat lung cancer from drinking 5 ounces of Zavita a day for 2 years that it didn’t work. She didn’t have any chemo, radiation, or surgery to solve her problem. She has the X-rays to proof her cancer shrank from having taking up her entire right lung. There is credible research from 20 years of independent research from around the world on the 7 plants that are in it. The Acai berry and Stevia are used for flavoring, and even if I had to pay retail for it, I’d still buy it. Also, if I never made a dime from telling people about it, I’d still tell people about it.
Also, Anonymous Aussie, I gave a woman a miniature bottle of less than 2 ounces to a woman, who was drinking another juice that I don’t know the name of, on a Wed. That following Friday, without me telling her anything about what it would, or wouldn’t do for her, she ordered a bottle of it at retail. Her only complaint was the $10 for shipping. I explained that it was $10 for shipping for 1-3 bottles and there wasn’t anything I could do about it. The following month, without me saying anything to her about it, she ordered 3 bottles at retail.
Something else to think about too Aussie, I have gotten my doctor to write a script for it for my wife’s degenerative joint disease as she drinks 2 1/2 ounces a day first thing in the morning before going to work. She is pain free all day long. The IRS in the US says that you may submit herbal supplements to your flexible spending account for reimbursement as long as it’s being taken for a specific purpose, which this is. And when was the FDA required to approve of a food anyway? The McDonald’s secret sauce in their Big Mac isn’t FDA approved now is it? The ingredients in the Zavita are on what is known as the GRAS list, aka Generally Recognized As Safe. There isn’t anything in Zavita that will harm you. Besides, the 2 guys that have the patent pending on the processing method for Zavita, have spent $4 million of their personal money over 4 1/2 years to develop it. If it wasn’t worth anything, why would they spend that kind of money, and then turn down offers to buy it from other MLM’s or a drug company? Just because you are saying it is in the same category as all the other juices, doesn’t make it so. Besides, it’s extracts from the bark, leaves and roots from the 7 plants, and not from fruits. Therefore, that makes it an extract, not a fruit juice. Before you speak on something you know nothing of, do your homework first, instead of lumping something in with all the rest of the companies. Oh, according to one web site that tells about MLM’s and which direct sales companies are actually worth pursuing, Fuller Brush company is listed and it meets certain criteria. Also, you can’t be in business for 21 years with the same products and not be sued, and having people continually buying the products if they didn’t work.
We know Acai berry is good for you, but what about the preservative Mona Vie use, Sodium Benzoate a suspected carcinogen (Cause Cancer), wheres the logic in using cancer giving materials in something that they say (or their distributors) helps cancer…..oooh I forgot, Sodium Benzoate is cheap….maximise profits !!!! It of course can no longer be called a health food, just a really expensive soft drink..good to see Europe is so far ahead of USA again and the FDA is hopeless or just helps big business not consumers
There is so much to back up the validity of MONAVIE as a company
don’t even get me started.
You are full of deception on this site.
I won’t support any of what Dr. Dean Edell says anymore nor will I waste my time listening to him!
Before anyone says ANYTHING NEGATIVE about Monavie AGAIN! go the International convention in Salt Lake City in June 2011 and hear it with your own ears, witness it with your mind, taste it for your self , open up your mind and educate yourself.
If someone believes the negative bantor of a company that hit the INC 500 MAGAZINE and created $1 billion sales in their first 3 years and paid out $1 BILLION commissions to distributors……………..
LOOK IN THE MIRROR and ask yourself, can your job create a multi-million dollar income and is there something better out there for your health and future?
Please explain the deception that you are accusing me of.
Sarah Lindenthal:
Haha, really?
Dallin has a proven track record of creating scams that get shut down by the FTC. Did you do your homework before joining Monavie to learn a little bit about Dallin? What was his previous failure / shutdown called?
Then he decides to start Monavie and he scratches his way into the INC 500 ranks. How did he do this? Was the growth organically or did he PAY and BRIBE leaders from other MLMs to come join his business?
I want you to start rattling off names of Diamonds that have made it to the Diamond level or higher since the conception of Monavie.
GO!
Oh yeah, one rule:
“The Diamonds had to have signed up in Monavie for the first time ever in their life as a distributor and you cannot count them if they came from a previous business where they brought their group and IBOs over with them.”
Good Luck.
Can’t wait to read your list!
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Thank you Sarah for the delusional quote of the day: “[MonaVie] created $1 billion sales in their first 3 years and paid out $1 BILLION commissions to distributors”.
I guess a 100% payout is possible when you are dealing in imaginary earnings.
Now Sarah, would you like to give us some real evidence “to back up the validity of MONAVIE as a company”? Do you mean to say that it in fact exists as a company? Or are you saying that it exists and does something other than scams its own distributors? If it’s the latter, please explain, but with some something other than the company’s or its distributors’ own unsupported claims.
it is a scam. Mona·Vie promises false hopes and dreams. Boycott Mona Vie!!!
Team/Mona Vie People: WAKE UP! You are apart of a pyramid scam under the guise of selling fruit juice, how is that any different from Amway, Quixtar, Alticor or Amway like businesses, To be quite honest with y’all, don’t believe Orrin Woodward’s lies–the man is unscrupulous & delusional. He is a scam artist and is not any better then Bernie Madoff and when the federal trade commission starts picking apart TEAM and Mona-Vie I won’t feel sorry for you. .maybe by then you’ll wake up and see the truth: IT IS A SCAM!!!
y’all have been drinking the purple kool-aid for way too long, you sit there and
blindly defend team and mona-vie when in actuality, when those of us who use to be Team/Mona-vie distributors tell you our point of view, it is from experience and
we see the truth..WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE..
Sarah Lindenthal and the others who defend loyally Team and Mona-Vie need to realize…in the words of joecool who posted on this site, said “It’s just a bad business opportunity with a leader who wants to make his fortune from his downline’s pockets. “…
Sorry but the truth hurts..
To Amthrax–Thank you for posting the blog and bravo to you for doing what is right.
To the rest of ya I hope you will join me in my campaign to boycott Team and Mona-Vie.
-Dick Hertz