Timeline: The TEAM MonaVie Experience As Told By Orrin Woodward and Chris Brady… with Various Reality Checks Along the Way
Here is a new timeline contrasting TEAM/LIFE rhetoric versus reality. Covering the period of time when TEAM moved to MonaVie up to the launch of LIFE, this timeline looks at quotes made by Orrin Woodward and Chris Brady, along with key events for high-level TEAM leaders such as the Hubers, Darkangelos, Cullens, Birtles, and Guzzardos.
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Pay special attention to Orrin Woodward’s praise of the Hubers on June 16, 2008:
“Mark and Anna [Huber]…went on to wipe out all of the debt accumulated becoming incredible leaders and servants on the Team. Would this have happened without Mark assaulting his old thinking and replacing with leadership thinking? I don’t think so and neither does Mark.”
— Orrin Woodward, June 16, 2008
Wait a second. Isn’t this the same couple who later declared bankrupcty in October, 2010?
As I mentioned in my initial article, I take no pleasure in revealing these bankrupcties. It is important, however, to highlight the disconnect between what TEAM/LIFE leaders say and what TEAM/LIFE leaders do. What was it again when you say one thing but mean another thing??? The truth, I think not!
Watch how the time between 2008 to August, 2011, is categorized by Orrin as a time of explosive growth for TEAM MonaVie. Next, notice how, shortly before the launch of LIFE, Orrin Woodward’s tune changes dramatically. Remember that period of explosive growth? It’s now been classified as a period of “trials and tribulations.”
Which Orrin Woodward should we believe?
There are two possible conclusions one can come to after viewing TEAM’s History as told by Orrin Woodward and Chris Brady:
- Orrin is telling the truth. There were exploding numbers growth and volume, as well as fantastic attitudes and excitement all across the TEAM on an almost monthly basis from 2008 to 2011.
At the same time, TEAM “toiled in the dark” since 2007 with “no financial reward” and almost went bankrupt as TEAM leaders just “persistently put one foot in front of the other.”
- Tens of thousands of people have been deceived. If TEAM’s history is true as told by Orrin, then at the very best his multiple posts from 2008 to 2011 were greatly misleading to those not in his inner circle. As far as we can tell, Orrin didn’t have one public communication prior to late 2011 that would have hinted at the cracks in TEAM’s armor after joining up with MonaVie.
No new person considering this business would have read about TEAM’s “record-breaking” numbers in their march to one million people and realized TEAM’s leaders were really going bankrupt and losing 2/3 of their income behind the scenes.
So what does all this mean?
If during Orrin’s self proclaimed and constantly trumpeted massive TEAM growth from 2007-2011, top leaders had in reality lost 2/3 of their income, gone bankrupt and foreclosed on their homes and property, then what did Orrin mean when he said TEAM/MonaVie is exploding?
TEAM members can’t talk about money or give actual facts and figures and prospects can’t be provided with W-2’s or other solid proof of income claims (section 3.6.2 of LIFE Policies & Procedures). Everyone is supposed to just believe Orrin and the Policy Council at their word, even though the real “word” may not come out for another 3 or 4 years or more, if ever.
Two final questions:
- If you can’t trust Orrin to tell the truth about events as they are happening, can you really believe anything he says now about the LIFE TEAM’s successes or where he believes the business is headed?
- If you are going to evaluate joining this business, what are you going to base your analysis on? Will you take Orrin and TEAM leaders’ word for it? Is it possible that they are deceiving you and there is another side to the story?
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