Tuesday Seminars – Any Mention of MonaVie in the new TEAM/LIFE Presentation?
September 6, 2011
Hope everyone had an enjoyable three-day Labor Day weekend. Tuesdays are TEAM Open Meeting nights. The launch of LIFE is in just a few months. How much emphasis or talk-time is given to MonaVie in the presentation today? For the past three years, it’s been emphasized as the primary way for TEAM members to make money and to fulfill their dreams. Now, as one of the eight pillars of success in LIFE (if you can afford it), is MonaVie just getting a passing mention?
AMTHRAX 
I don’t know about the open tonight, but I can report that at the July monthly that was 6 hours long, monavie was mentioned all of about 3 minutes in the webcast and the only other time was at the break where they were pushing energy drinks.
I started hearing about LIFE back in April, but as par for the course no TEAMer could tell you anything about it. I have never seen a group of people get so excited about something they dont know anything about.
I just saw that the TEAM registration form was just changed (again) and doesn’t even include signing up with Mona Vie as an option! Registration is now $83.95 and includes the LIFE book and 4 month subscription to the EBC. I didn’t see anywhere on the form where Mona Vie is even mentioned. Apparently it is up to the person signing up as to “when” they’d like to sign up in Mona Vie as well.
When will Orrin stop paying lip service to Dallin for everything he’s done for the TEAM and stop saying that when they go to a million they’ll spill more juice than anyone else is drinking in MV? “Fitness” may be one of the 8 F’s, but the other 7 are sure getting a whole lot more airtime.
Another question – isn’t the TEAM now blatantly (as opposed to subtley) running an illegal pyramid scheme? With MV out of the picture (they’re associated in pretty much name only as NO one focuses on the product), where is the external consumption of the TEAM system? Where are the leaders make most of their money right now? How does the new person make any money outside of MV? Are they getting people to sign up solely on the HYPE of the new LIFE business and the hope that in the future they can make money? I wonder if these new prospects know that in the next 2 months, they have no chance of income, but their upline will still be profiting on all of the system, tool and ticket sales.
Used to be ‘all in’~
Great post! Did the registration form say?;
We OWN you for life now, you are bound and not allowed to do anything outside of the lief program to make a living because we have all 8 areas covered, you cannot have a job, and are required to bash it and everything else that is not of us, and will accept this life program as your destiny and passion; because there is nothing else!
You will be bound to ‘devoting’ all you time, energy, and money; will work for free, do, act, and say, as we, the PC tell you to; from here on out. Everything is a tax write off for you but profit for us, don’t worry, be Happy! We are not required to teach any real business and expect you to ignore your losses. You have bound yourself to a ‘repeat after me’ LIEF.
There is absolutely NO-cross-lining but you will praise them and ARE expected to help build their teams whenever they are in the same meetings, even if they de-edify and cross-line with your team. If you are caught talking with them; it is punishable by our mafia like standards; just know someone will be reporting and watching at all times. You will be required to shun any family, friends, co-workers etc, that don’t have the same agenda or don’t speak in reverence of us, you are not allowed to think, ask or question, and are not allowed to be creative, you can’t hold us accountable for ANYTHING and don’t expect to EVER get paid, and if we let you well bonus, we will vote you out any time we choose; you had better be thankful we let you join; WE decide whether you are worthy.
We will make many promises we won’t keep, and by you signing you agree you accept and will like it. We can change the deal and profit-sharing formula anytime we see fit, based on your cross-liner’s performance, not necessarily just yours or if any litigation procedures occur. We have the right to pick favorites and pay them more.
We are a performance based lie and You are expected to perform 6-7 days per week! You are expected to worship us, report on anyone that would buy anything from any establishment other than from our system, such as Barnes-n-Noble, Half-off books, etc. or anyone else’s, and if so it is grounds to blackball you. We have the RIGHT and will be sending someone occasionally to ride in your car and over to your house to check to see if you have any books or cd’s outside of our system. You are NOT allowed to obtain anything from or be within 200 feet of any public library.
You are required to wear what we tell you, where and when to travel and you will wear a smile and be happy to spend your bill money to go where ever that will be. You always, always, always, have a smile on your face, be positive, absolutely NO NEGATIVE and if your attitude isn’t fake we will discuss this behind your back and it is our right to do what we see fit to change it. Expect a phone call and then praise us and thank us for correcting your thinking. You will also be required to listen to your PC brag continuously when you call them and what level of leadership you are NOT and they ARE.
You will be required to ‘believe’ in our doctrine, and political agenda, period. You are required to change any old beliefs you may have had politically, religiously, or otherwise, forget about what you have learned anywhere and are required to change those on your team that does not meet our agenda. Give Orrin the credit for EVERY success in your life, including your reason you were put on earth. Only refer to him as a Guru and #1 best seller. You are required to send in ALL money to us from anything lief related, but if there is a loss, you are expected to eat those costs, but eat it with pride and joy, keep that smile on all the while you are mailing in your personal bill money to us.
You are NOT allowed under any circumstances to read any truthful websites, watch T.V., take personal family vacations (unrelated to life) etc. You will be expected to cancel your cable and home-school your children and raise them the way we would. You are also required to cancel every important family event that will require your time or falls on our continuous events. Women you are to be completely submissive, you are required to build the business but do not question anything your husband does or spends even if you are going bankrupt. You only do as the PC women do; without question.
You may be required to break trust and the law on occasion, you will lie, deceive, coerce and manipulate, do unethical and immoral things as we see fit to meet our ends; but you will do it with pride. One last thing you will only be allowed 5 minutes to read and sign, you will not be allowed to take it to your attorney so don’t even think about it, and you will not get a copy of any contracts so don’t bother asking. You are required to blindly follow we have no end users nor will you be required to ever have customers. We require you to break all the laws and rules.
Fired-up! Welcome to the rest of your LIEF! 🙂
Just checking, I haven’t read the new form. This is done with some semi-humor; based on my opinion, and on experience.
All for only a one time fee of 83.95!..well…..99% and the rest of your life savings and earnings will be expected and surrendered for the PC lifestyles…. but hey why would that be important to let them know…that they will end up broke and destroyed?
I agree with you; illegal pyramid scheme?
Render unto Orrin what is Orrin’s.
Could one of you quitters and negative people (joke!) kindly explain what cross lining is? My sponsor never said anything about it, and I never heard about it at meetings….only here.
Nice……SYT 🙂
Not signed up, cross lining is anyone not in your direct line of sponsorship. If you are on Bob’s Team and Jim is on another team you would be cross line to Jim. What that means as far as orrin is concerned is you are not allowed to do anything but nod to Jim, can’t talk business with him because you might actually find out that his team is not growing just as much as yours is not growing… Totally a control mechanism kind of like socialism………..
I wonder if the speakers on Saturday will tell you how they are making less than than half of what they made when they had a job………..I thought this “opportunity” was suppose to be the ticket, work less, make more……….HA, what a joke. I know some facts about some of the RT’s and former RT’s and they are going broke, at least a large number of them are. A few have filed bankruptcy, the Cullen’s for sure (that is public record by the way, it was in the final ruling of the Q lawsuit). I wonder why they never tell you the whole story…………actually I don’t wonder, I know……….the truth will kill their business……….and it is actually starting to come out on blogs like this. There is so much hypocrissy in this group. I used to wonder how a bernie madoff could get away with what he did, hurting so many and costing them their financial future’s. Team is much worse because they use your relationship with them to keep you in, knowing you will most likely never make it. I hear the Martin’s, the Saturday seminar speakers are not too far away from working again. Neither one of their teams are growing from what I hear and the growth they have had is disappearing as fast as it came. It is not just them but I believe it is happening team wide. i know my former group has only added 2 people a month for the last 7 months. That is pathetic……………And it is a big leader Tap root.
[Editor’s note: Grammatical corrections for better readability]
Cross lining means talking strategy or otherwise to other members of Team that are not directly in your downline. It was away for the Team to keep you and others uniformed as to how other teams within the Team were (or not) performing.
not signed up yet~
“Cross-lining” is when you talk to anyone outside of your line of sponsorship; you may only talk with your upline and anyone in your direct downline.
Anyone on here would probably be your ‘cross-line’ LOL 🙂
Finally~
You too, your team is ‘exploding’ LHOL! It is quite histerical…what wait, didn’t Orrin say 3000 were added to the team and was something like the best growth since…? Now, out of 7 PC and ALL those leaders, only 3000 have been added… since when? Sad..
Let’s face it they need this ‘pre-launch’, it is buying them so time, if they didn’t have something to HYPE, then what would they do? The business has always been built on the an over active ‘excitement’; phony exageration of “what the next best thing is”, whether it be someone in your upline coming into speak, new product, (even though they aren’t about the products; people move products, products don’t move people) or whatever they can do to pretend it is the next best thing since sliced bread. Even if it is the same ‘upline’ that they have seen a hundred times. They will promote it as; ‘if you thought he walked on water last time, you wait; he will be breathing fire this time. LOL
It would have to be real diffi’cult’ for the Martins to speak, or anyone for that matter, knowing you have to get up their and PRETEND and lie to them and yourself; promote how they expect you to, knowing the business is going down the tubes.
Thank God we don’t have to do that anymore or sit with a phony smile and fired-up mantra, plastic image going on! If their consciences aren’t zinging them every time they say the LIEf is exploding, then oh boy that is scary!
When will they ever come clean?
I don’t see what the big deal is… Though when you sign up you still get your spot in the monavie tree so after you make money in life you can choose to go on autoship and get another income stream.. Mentioning Life Includes Monavie since its part of it… I heard That when Life launches everyone would be getting a income faster than in monavie. The amount you pay in to get into Teamlife and teammonavie is lower now than it would be after life begins so I heard, so joining now would cost less and the EBc identifies your spot in the life business.
Okay, cross lining is a very dumb concept then. If you are a TEAM, then why wouldn’t you share info that would help the “community” and benefit everyone.
So then, this really isn’t a team and really is the close knit community they say they are. I had a gut feeling but again, all my confirmation has come from you guys, not form actual team members.
I know there no I in team but there’s no “O” either!
not signed up yet~ I am pretty sure you get how dumb it is. lol
What would be the benefit be? It is to keep you from knowing what they don’t want you to know. They will give all kinds of rhetoric on why it is important that you don’t Cross-line, and it may sound logical, but it is another mixed message.
Who in the real world does this?
If you were starting a ‘conventional’ REAL business of your own, then wouldn’t you want to talk to people who have done just that to learn all you can? And your point about being 1 team, yep, makes no sense does it. Control, Control, Control…
Welcome to the unrealistic MLM-team-lief world…..
Lyk~
I could go into a very long post on ‘what the big deal’ is, but I won’t. You need to be honest with yourself and others.
What’s the point of ‘holding your spot’ in MV, if very few (only those who can afford it, lol) if any will ever buy the juice, since we know no one will be be promoting it. Why.. cause ‘you just wait and see what is coming in 11-1-11.
As a matter of fact, I could make a pretty good educated guess that they are telling people to drop their auto-ships down to 100 points now. And from the sounds of the ‘new’ registration form, MV isn’t much of anything to lief but then we new that 3 years ago.
Have you figured out why the ‘price is lower, now’; until it officially launches? Heres a clue, the same reason they did this when they promoted Quixtar, the ‘new’ online business way back in the day.
Nothing changes….
Only names and faces…..
SYT, not even names and faces. Hasn’t anyone noticed that there are no new names in the leadership roster? Same people, seminar after seminar. Oh wait, three years ago we started hearing about Dan and Lisa Hawkins, who were given other people’s teams so that it would look like someone was growing. My bad.
Samantha~
You are right they haven’t gotten ANY new ‘big’ leaders for at least 3 years, in fact they only continue to leave. I was referring to the ‘name changes’ and names and faces of ‘newbies’ because it is a build and replace business. 🙂
They can’t count Dan and Lisa Hawkins, at least legitimately as you stated they were given teams to rank. Shameful. Definitely, not duplicatable.
Lol. You guys have NO idea what is going on! Just because you see something, or don’t see something, you run with it, making all sorts of accusations and conclusions. By all means, please keep doing what you’re doing, sit on your couch, draw ridiculous conclusions, don’t influence anyone else who isn’t also sitting on their couch….and just wait:)
Hud, Bob, credible source, can’t get any more inside than you?lol~ (which is it) Don’t recognize any of those names.
Why don’t you address the facts about the corruption that you would have to KNOW about; if you are more on the inside than anyone else? Hmm…..diversion, distraction…..lol
You think people don’t have ‘proof’?
BTW~ I would rather sit on my couch any day, than deceive, lie, steal, and cheat people for personal gain…could careless about ‘what is going on’, already know the ‘hype’ and ‘false hope’ is standard operating proceedure… it can’t be much different than it was in Amway…and “just you wait” or perhaps the same ole’ ‘best pay plan’ in the ‘industry’ that the thieves steal from those who earned…who pay for the PC’s lifestyles …..”just you wait”…have heard that a million and one times…don’t care if you are selling the fountain of youth…the facts remain the same.
So, good luck manipulating the naive, and gullible who haven’t yet figured out they will never get their promised “passive, residual, ongoing, b-type,willable for the rest of their lief income”..nothing but lies.. those unsuspecting souls will eventually see the games beinging played unless a full investigation occurs first… and from the sounds of it the PC is desperately needing to make-up for some big losses due to foreclosures, and they need to make a whole bunch more $$ off the uniformed; to pay for their dishonorable… lief
Hey “speak”. No. People don’t “have proof”. I’ll put your “proof” up against my facts any day. Your posts listed numerous assumptions which led to wrong conclusions about people. This is poor. The facts are that the “corruption” isn’t as you are all making it out to be. I DO know what happened, which is why I don’t need to “address” anything. The accusations are ridiculous. That’s like someone saying “Hey I saw 3 Martians in your room. Are you hiding something?” Do you think that needs to be addressed? no.
Ok. Good show. I’m out. I think I”ve given you all enough to slam me about while I’m gone:) Lol. Feel free to yell and me. I won’t be reading it. This is all TOO addicting, but you don’t need me to tell you that!
No proof?……Really..you think you know it all don’t you…that’s interesting did you have access to our team information hmmm….do think so…and btw your arrogance is very unbecoming, that must be the show you are talking about.
One thing I know we will agree on is the TRUTH will find You out!
Hud~
You think we believe you won’t be reading this…LHOL
You must have not been there during the MV registration…or perhaps you were a part of the registration corruption…and perhaps you were the one who stole the profit-sharing and teams…Hmmm..keep trying to hide but the truth will find you out.
It sound’s like Hud has something to hide. I would say this is Orrin or Tim. Chris shows the most humility out of the three. This guy wreaks of ego. He has all the facts but refuses to show them. Keep hiding behing your church and faith while deceiving the masses with your emotionalism. God has prepared a place for you Orrin, and it isn’t Heaven. The truth will set you free and I will continue to pray that you will change before it’s too late.
das and webelieved~
No Doubt…. I believe it is Orrin..and isn’t it interesting that He states in another post he HAS to remain Anonymous…hahahaha..now why would that be?.. hmmm…Coward…but has the audacity to call Amthrax a Coward…Really? …Sounds just like.. Qrush’s arrogance and hate…
We all Know ‘Hud’ has many,many, many, things he is losing sleep over.. praying to ‘himself’ in hopes, no one ever finds out…, and is praying real hard that a full blown criminal investigation doesn’t occur by any major organization FTC, IRS, etc.. he will be up a creek ,without a paddle.
Who is he trying to dellude… “No. People don’t ‘have proof”…himself as usual. What did he do… get rid of all the evidence at the Team Office? Don’t worry, others have proof.. Hmm.. And since he wants to ‘put up his facts any day’ with his arrogance….then BRING IT… to Amthrax for the world to see… too chicken to set the record straight once and for all? Perhaps people will then quit coming to Amthrax site…or were those, just more slurs?
While your at it bring the ‘contract’, you refuse to give and all the numbers of ALL the leaders in profit-sharing and those you stole from and how much you paid each leader including the PC; based on those numbers for every month… we can compare… since Samantha already said you would ‘fix’ the numbers and we know you can’t be trusted… it smells like fish for sure; when others are getting paid more with less numbers….those are some ‘facts we know You have;’ bring it….so the world can see how YOU really ‘figured’ the pay… let everyone else see and come to their own conclusions on how hononable you are.. and how much integrity you really have….since you say; “The facts are that the “corruption” isn’t as you are all making it out to be.” Prove it…with the facts no need for the spinning parables, just facts….lay this thing to rest…
There is much more…but that’s a start.
Webelieved~ I thought the same thing on the ‘hud’….trying to be clever I guess, since the revealing of George’s dishonorable, immoral, and unethical…. ‘strategic default’….
They need to Stop promoting themselves as people with some kind of ‘superior intellects’ (just a couple of cool lief words; for con artists) or diety, who walk on water, have integrity, are honest and God fearing Christians, are some kind of financial guru’s in their own little world and minds because the more light shed….only makes them and their hypocrisy look even worse.
The real damage is to unsespecting and uninformed in that this causes them to be sucked, and keep blindly following and damages more lives.. too sad.
Perhaps Qrush ought to take his own nasty, hateful, grimey advice for others… and apply it to himself….